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Subject: RE: deep air Please help
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:32:37 -0400
From: "David B. Widen" <dwiden@tw*.co*>
To: "Paul Braunbehrens" <Bakalite@ba*.co*>, <ScottBonis@ao*.co*>,
    
Bullshit - people do not do the research and read. TDI dropped the
Extended Range (Deep Air) requirement for Trimix two years ago. I tend
to believe that is from the drum beating the that George Irvine and
company have done about Deep Air BS. I am a TDI Instructor, although a
great deal of DIR technique and methodology is incorporated in the
classes I teach. I won't teach ER any more. If you want ER, find a new
instructor. If you are going to become a Tech Dive, do your research,
ask question. Do not just follow the crowd. I have thought long and hard
about changing to GUE as an instructor. It is hard to come up with the
time and money away from my business to spend it in FL for the course
work.

I hope and believe that here are more instructor like me out there.

David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Braunbehrens [mailto:Bakalite@ba*.co*]
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:39 AM
> To: ScottBonis@ao*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: Re: deep air Please help
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> The problem is that people aren't aware of the options.  They have an=20
> instructor that they've been working with, whom they trust, and then=20
> the guy says "OK, the next step is to do Deep Air".  You try to=20
> argue, but the guy is adamant because he wants to make money on one=20
> more class.  You figure he must know his stuff, and you do want to=20
> progress to trimix, so you feel you have no choice.  It's classic,=20
> and it's criminal.
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> <ScottBonis@ao*.co*> wrote:
> ~
> >Hi Ed,
> >
> >I'm having difficulty understanding your message.  How did=20
> an instructor
> >"FORCE" you to dive to 180 on air?  Did he physically=20
> restrain you and pull
> >you down to that depth?
> >
> >I think you need to grow up and start to take some=20
> responsibility for your
> >own decisions.  Yes IMHO, the instructor was wrong.  Yes=20
> IMHO, the dive was
> >stupid.  But yes, you choose to make the dive.  So consider=20
> yourself lucky
> >that you dodged the bullet this time and learn from it.
> >
> >Take care and dive safe,       Scott
> >
> >Some weeks it's just not worth the effort to gnaw through=20
> the restraints and
> >scramble up out of the pit.
> >
> >
> >
> >In a message dated 5/31/2001 10:00 AM NyWrecker@ao*.co* writes:
> >
> ><< ... Ive only ben diving for about 3 years.Im VERRY aware=20
> of this deep air
> >shit BUT i have asked a few people for a limit and cant get=20
> an answer.To
> >start off the rec limit is 130 on air.Last summer i was=20
> FORCED to go to
> >150-160-3 times and 180 on it.The MOD on the 180 was 220.I=20
> know stupid BUT it
> >was with a TDI-IANTD instructor so what do you expect.I=20
> tried to get him to
> >let me use a mix but he wouldnt and i thought he wouldnt but=20
> i had to try...
> >>>
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