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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: "Gliviak, Jozef" <Jozef.Gliviak@co*.co*>
Cc: "Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: Sidemounts, sump diving, valve protection during transport
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 18:34:06 -0400
No. It is too stupid to discuss in public, but what I do is use two tanks
like doubles ( in other words I do not use them at all ) and dive stages to
half plus 200. If I fuck up, I have two full ones on me. The rest is just
such bullshit I hate to have my name on it. Sidemount diving is for
assholes. I do it when I absolutely have to, and then I find a way to use
the proper gear, or I invoke Option Number One , "Don't Dive".

-----Original Message-----
From: Gliviak, Jozef [mailto:Jozef.Gliviak@co*.co*]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 7:02 AM
To: 'trey@ne*.co*'
Cc: Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com
Subject: RE: Sidemounts, sump diving, valve protection during transport


Thanx for the sidemount explanation.
Can you also add something to the gas management consideration?

What about the second part - valve protection? Guys here dive systems where
you have to pass 15 sifons, drag your gear in mud and sand in between and
climb few hudret meters to get to next few sifons. They argue that if they
would not use protective cages on their valve, they would not be able to
transport their gear safely. They understand that cage is not needed, even
potentialy dangerous underwater, but I do not have a solution for them.

Best regards
  Jozef Gliviak
  Slovakia

-----Original Message-----
From: trey@ne*.co* [mailto:trey@ne*.co*]
Sent: 30. mája 2001 12:28
To: Gliviak, Jozef
Cc: Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com
Subject: RE: Sidemounts, sump diving, valve protection during transport



Rig is the same harness only with weight attached to the plate ( or stacked
steel plates ) for drysuit. The right side d ring is just a bungee loop on
the strap. Argon is as in wreck diving. Bottles are rigged as stages. You
can run the wings off of the argon or orally. Nothing changes here, but we
do not do it unless we really have to. I do it in the Bahamas so as to not
have to take much gear over there, and because those caves tend to have
flowstone restrictions that are flat and then open back up again, and most
of them are short penetrations so the sidemount bullshit is not too far out
of line. Generally, sidemount means you do not need to be there, but here in
Florida a lot of strokes do it because as Woody Jasper told them all a long
time ago, "you might as well learn sidemount if you want to explore cave
since you are never going to outgun these guys ( WKPP ).

-----Original Message-----
From: Gliviak, Jozef [mailto:Jozef.Gliviak@co*.co*]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 4:59 AM
To: 'trey@ne*.co*'
Cc: Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com
Subject: Sidemounts, sump diving, valve protection during transport


Hello George,

During your visit in Italy I didn't have time to touch on these subjects. I
would appreciate a few words from DIR perspesctive as I was not able to find
answers on this on DIR related web sites. Here are the main question I'd
like to have your opinion on:

sidemounts - configuration, house routing, D-ring on right side ?, gas
management rules + OOA solving?

valve protection - how would you solve transport problems in caves which
require to pass series of sifons with narrow dry passages in between. On
these dry parts there is a high chance of hitting/beaking knobs etc...

sump diving - any considerations/opinions on diving in extremly narrow/low
vis caves where buddy system doesn't help


Best regards

  Jozef Gliviak
  Slovakia


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