Cobb, by definition if one is believing Tom's slop, the "brain" these guys
have been dealt is not top of the line, so maybe they need a wrist computer
and a respirator so they can also remember to breathe. Dude, I have found
out that contrary to popular opinion, Tom is not exactly recruiting
instructors from Harvard Business School, and any instructor who is worth a
shit will end up GUE if they can make the cut.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Cobb [mailto:cobber@ci*.co*]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 4:57 PM
To: Kevin Sumlar; Z; Tech Diver; Fltechdiver
Subject: Re: Trimix Computers


OK the difference in your scenario is more or less 10 mins of deco. What I
would do is utilise my Standard Issue Mk1-A1 Brian and think about my deco
plan and the various scenarios that I had worked out before the dive.

Then, using the very same Mk1-A1 Brain, I would modify the deco schedule to
get out of the water a little sooner than if I had hugged the bottom at 180
for the whole dive. In this case most of the time is knocked off the O2 with
a minute here and there prior to that. This is not rocket science.

Why is this so hard? Does this really require a $1900 device strapped to
your wrist?

   Jim
 -------------------------------------------------------------------
 Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/

> From: "Kevin Sumlar" <ksumlar@ci*.co*>
> Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 15:17:15 -0400
> To: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>, "Z" <mzurl@be*.ne*>, "Tech
> Diver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Subject: Re: Trimix Computers
>
> I can sort of see Tom's point, not that its a great one.
> Suppose you plan your tables for a dive on a wreck
> at 180' but end up spending half your bottom time
> swimming around the superstructure at 160' or so.
> Following the tables would not account for the reduced
> deco time that the computer would be able to calculate
> on the fly.
>
> Still should never be used as a crutch for the untrained
> but it would have some benefit.
>
> -K
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
> To: Z <mzurl@be*.ne*>; <FLTechDiver@mikey.net>; Tech Diver
> <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 9:17 AM
> Subject: Re: Trimix Computers
>
>
>> You did not get my point. With a laptop computer and a tables program
like
>> decoplanner, you can spend hours before the dive analysing different
>> profiles, deco gasses, bailout situations, etc.
>>
>> You also learn your personal tolerances and can account for these as
well.
>>
>> And don't tell me you can do this worth a crap with a wrist unit.
>>
>> By the way, check out this little tidbit:
>>
>> IANTD(UK) is run by Kevin Gurr http://www.iantd.com/iantd-uk.html
>> he gets  bucks for every IANTD card sold & is Toms right hand man.
>>
>> VR3 POS is made by the very same guy http://www.vr3.co.uk/
>> (look at the phone number on the Left & the Phoenix logo)
>>
>> I have been reliably informed that all IANTD Trimix courses in the UK,
>> promote the VR3 as the way to dive trimix - no doubt the instructor gets
a
>> kick back on every VR3 sold.
>>
>> Tom obviously got a copy of free ones.
>>
>> My, we are an incestuous little group, aren't we?
>>
>>> Jim
>>> IANTD does not have a contract with any manufacture
>>> in anything other than training issues and even there it is just
agreements
>>> to provide training programs on whatever it is
>>
>> Tom, your audience is not composed entirely of idiots, although it
appears
>> that you assume this is the case.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/
>>
>>> From: "Z" <mzurl@be*.ne*>
>>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:38:37 -0400
>>> To: <FLTechDiver@mikey.net>
>>> Subject: RE: Trimix Computers
>>>
>>> "I can see absolutely no reason to use a trimix dive computer ..."
>>>
>>> Hey, wait a minute, where did you get your paper schedules from?  Wasn't
it
>>> a computer?
>>> Couldn't moving that computer to your wrist be used to advantage?
>>>
>>> Z
>>>
>>>
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