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Scott, What college did you go to!? If the prof is wrong you tell him so! :) -ben --- ScottBonis@ao*.co* wrote: > Hi Jim, > > You may recall that you and I have butted heads a > number of times in the > past, as well as agreeing on various subjects also. > But I see another head > butting coming on. > > I have on numerous occasions chastised posters on > the net for saying > derogatory things about Trey. Not ever for arguing > about his opinions or > advice (which are usually pretty sound), but for > showing a lack of respect > for his accomplishments and dedication to the sport > of diving. There comes a > point that even if I disagree with what is being > said, I must respect the > speaker if he has earned a certain position in the > community. A freshman > doesn't challenge a full professor. He or she may > question, but never accuse > or direct. After the freshman has graduated and > contributed to the > community, then he or she may argue. > > Now I must request that you display a greater > respect for several of the > people in the dive community who don't happen to be > associated with the WKPP > or GUE. Tom Mount, whether or not you agree with > his dive techniques, is one > of the clear leaders and outstanding figures in the > technical diving > community. He at IANTD, along with Ed Betts at > ANDI, Bret Gilliam at TDI, > et. al. for example, are, whether or not you choose > to accept it, among the > true pioneers in technical diving. These people and > others like them, are > our teachers and have devoted major portions of > their lives to advancing > diving techniques and making the sport safer for all > of us. > > Perhaps you now feel that some of the information > being presented by these > organizations has been superseded by new data that > points in a new direction. > This may be so. But it does not give you the right > or even simply > permission, to forget that these people and > organizations have persevered and > should have earned your respect. > > Trey, by virtue of his unique position as a > nonprofessional whose > accomplishments, experience and contributions to the > body of technical diving > knowledge have earned him the respect of divers > worldwide, happens to have a > confrontational communication style. Because of his > position I, and most > others who wish to learn, overlook this as a > personal negative. It is his > way and we accept him for what he is and what he has > to offer. And we are > appreciative for his time and efforts. > > But make no mistake that you have certainly not > earned a similar position. > In my opinion, you have no business whatever telling > Tom Mount or the others, > what they SHOULD be doing. They are the teachers > and you are the student. > They tell you. You listen quietly, ask for more > information, choose what is > right for you and make your own decisions. But you > do not pretend to be on > the level of your teachers and direct them. That is > pure ego. > > Let's not forget that we live in an ordered society > where true respect is > earned over many years of accomplishment and > service, not simply by who can > yell the loudest or type the most curse words into > his or her computer. I > consider myself really fortunate to have had the > opportunity to learn from > individuals of this caliber. > > Jim, I think that you ought to consider this > carefully and perhaps modify > your approach when communicating with these folks. > And I need to say here > that although this message is addressed to you Jim, > I am actually also > speaking to a number of the other posters on this > list. > > But then OTOH, this is simply one diver's opinion. > > Take care and dive safe, Scott > > Some weeks it's just not worth the effort to gnaw > through the restraints and > scramble up out of the pit. > > > > In a message dated 5/23/01 9:12:32 PM, > cobber@ci*.co* writes: > << Tom- > Maybe not but there are plenty of diveshops out > there who would > love to sell some of these high margin pieces of > shit and saying what you > said below is about as close to a promotion as you > can get. Did you purchase > yours or was it a promo? > <snip> > Tom, as I recall you used to stuff the long hose, > use bungee wings, use > steel stages, dive deep air, etc. Don't make this > mistake too. >> > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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