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Date: 23 May 2001 21:54:13 -0400
From: Jim Cobb <Cobber@ci*.co*>
Subject: Re: Trimix Computers
To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, Ray Blanchard <rkbl@uf*.ed*>,
     Tech Diver ,
     Tech Diver
CC: <FLTechDiver@mikey.net>
Ray-

Is it possible to disable all the computer features and use it as just a =
bottom timer? This is what I've done with my Nitek3 and I am quite happy =
with it now.

You plan your dive and you dive your plan. The tables are your plan. You =
plan your dive by creating your tables. You learn your dive by planning =
and creating your tables. There are only 2 things you need to do, keep an =
eye on your bottom timer and then use your tables when you ascend. You do =
enough of this and pretty soon the tables are a backup to your computer. =
The one between your ears.

These trimix computers are suckerbait. What do you sell a techdiver who =
has everything? Perfect for this application only, squeezing an extra $1900=
 out of dopes who are looking for a shortcut to hard work and experience.

 Jim

On Wednesday, May 23, 2001 9:27 PM, Ray Blanchard <rkbl@uf*.ed*> wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>=A0=A0=A0 You make a good point and one that every trimix diver must
>answer for themselves but I also didn't do a good job on
>explaining the interface.=A0 The actual dive mode screens were
>quite straight forward; it's only if you desire to take
>advantage of all the flexibility that it becomes cumbersome
>(remember though I haven't dove this).=A0 The potential benefits
>of efficiently handling the deco debt for a variety of gas loss
>scenarios on the fly has a lot of appeal to me but then I also
>do a fair bit of drift deco.=A0 As far as computer advantage
>goes, I spent 15 years diving USN tables before going over to
>dive computers and have no plans on going back.=A0 I clearly
>remember the increased NDTL and flexibility that on-the-fly
>deco calculations allow and it decreased the task loading of my
>dives allowing me to focus more attention on the environment at
>hand.=A0 Clearly trimix diving requires much greater planning and
>understanding of contingency measures even with a computer but
>if taking advantage of a multilevel profile reduces your deco
>debt and allows one to safely exit the water sooner, is this a
>bad thing?=A0 Computers are diving tools just like regulators or
>tanks and absolutely can't replace the high level skills,
>training and experience critical to the conduct of a safe
>trimix dive, even so, new technology has a way of being
>incorporated whether we personally like it or not.=A0 Look at the
>original dive computers or no deco (recreational) use of nitrox
>or even the use of trimix over air for deep dives.=A0 There have
>always been people who take so much pride in their expertise
>that they are resistant to progress and the diving industry has
>its share of them.=A0 The first items of any new technology are
>always rough around the edges but that doesn't necessarily make
>them worthless or a waste of money for those who can afford them.
>Safe diving,
>Ray
>=A0
>Jim Cobb wrote:
>All I can say is Ray, Why? All the stuff you relate here with
>the added bonus of the "most complicated interface in dive
>computerdom". Excuse me but I do believe that there are more
>important things to be keeping track of on a trimix dive than
>trying to figure out the most complicated interface ever strapped on a =
wrist.
>What advantage does this $1900 monstrosity offer over a bottom
>timer, tables and a solid understanding of deco that only comes
>from experience? This is pure geek stuff, hoypaloy which adds
>nothing to your dive but more complexity, task loading and failure points.=

>=A0 Jim
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