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From: Robert Wood <rwood@sp*.co*>
To: "'trey@ne*.co*'" <trey@ne*.co*>, Wahoodiver@ao*.co*,
     plewitsch@ya*.co*, quest@gu*.co*
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: Another NE wreck death
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 10:02:15 -0400
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Not only did he not plan his dives! As an inventor, I can only be amazed 
that he did not plan his inventions. Like, he didn't think about trim ???
He was a tinkerer.
 
Sorry to say that, but this was an incredibly stupid thing to do but thanks
for the description, it pretty much happened as envisaged.
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Wahoodiver@ao*.co* [mailto:Wahoodiver@ao*.co*]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 9:56 AM
To: trey@ne*.co*; Wahoodiver@ao*.co*; plewitsch@ya*.co*; quest@gu*.co*
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Another NE wreck death


Remember, trying to stand on the top of a sharp point give you very little 
purchase. 

       I see you have very little patience nor can you answer a couple of 
questions directly without losing you temper. 
      No, the last time I seen Tony Maffatone was last August when he was 
stepping off the deck of my boat alone to test his equipment.  Tony knew the

risks of diving alone and only dove alone, we discussed the risks many
times, 
Tony dove to invent and invented to dive.  Tony designed and built all his 
equipment, none store bought if it was he took it apart and redesigned it
and 
made it better.  Tony spent, three years building his system and 3 months 
diving his new design in 15 to 30 feet of water and this dive the second one

to 100 feet was the next stage of testing. Tony talked about equipment 
failure and he tried to design every backup into his system, He had just 
removed the scuba second  feeling the rest of his design had all backup 
needed. 
      From examination of the incident and equipment,  there was design 
fault with tank balance, if the lowest tank of the seven tanks was drained 
empty and others more than half full it flipped him on his back up side
down. 
The system weighs out of water 265 lbs in water 150 lbs, Tony struggled to 
right himself he cut his suit legs to get the gas out and right himself but 
being upside down the XO FFM mask flooded he cut both his shoulder harness 
and made a free assent, rising feet first  upside down and didn't make it. 
Like Berman and  Exley Tony was pioneer and didn't die sitting at his 
computer and talking diving. 
      He died following his dream, maybe not the way he say he would choose,

but he did choose his time and place. We grieve Tony, like many will grieve 
Steve Bermans and Dave. 
      You only think you are in control, I hope you never lose it. 

Captain Steve Bielenda 
In a message dated 5/22/2001 6:51:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
trey@ne*.co* writes: 




Subj:RE: Another NE wreck death 
Date: 5/22/2001 6:51:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time 
From:    trey@ne*.co* (Trey) 
To:    Wahoodiver@ao*.co*, plewitsch@ya*.co*, quest@gu*.co* 
CC:    techdiver@aquanaut.com 




Belinda, bullshit. Do not waste our time with your slop. You just never 
learn, do you? Seen Tony Maffatone lately? Keep up the piss poor example 
and the hard headed baloney. 


From: Wahoodiver@ao*.co* [mailto:Wahoodiver@ao*.co*] 
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 8:43 PM 
To: trey@ne*.co*; plewitsch@ya*.co*; quest@gu*.co* 
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com 
Subject: Re: Another NE wreck death 




Why do you have to have a buddy? 
     This guy had a massive heart attack and died almost instantly, his 
video camera showed 22 minutes of video and a shudder and the camera 
dropped 
along with his mounted light, he started to inflate his buoyance system 
and 
died his light snaged into the wreck and held his body there. 
Where was Steve Berman dive buddy? 
Are the rules different for different area around the world, such as cave, 
NE 
wreck southern waters west coast or where ever? 
This is not an argument just some information and questions. 
Risk management is done by each diver themselves and the risk they are 
willing to take when diving alone are there own or with a dive partner, 
solo 
divers do not put others at risk. 
     You may not like it but that the facts. NE wreck diving has had its 
share of diving deaths as many other areas of the world but non comes any 
were near the high count of cave diving deaths around the world, with and 
without there buddies. 

Captain Steve Bielenda 

In a message dated 5/15/01 7:54:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
trey@ne*.co* 
writes: 




Subj: RE: Another NE wreck death 
Date: 5/15/01 7:54:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time 
From:    trey@ne*.co* (Trey) 
To:    plewitsch@ya*.co* (Paul Lewitsch), quest@gu*.co* 
CC:    techdiver@aquanaut.com 




Paul, NE diving is a disgrace - partially due to the bullshit, and more 
due 
to the fact that the rest of you go along with it. 

Let me ask a question, and you NE divers can get out your dictionary to 
look 
up this word: "Where was this guy's B U D D Y ? 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Paul Lewitsch [mailto:plewitsch@ya*.co*] 
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 1:43 PM 
To: quest@gu*.co* 
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com 
Subject: Another NE wreck death 


Anyone know the actual situation of what happened? 
George,you can disregard this email and hit delete. We 
know your views on NE diving and believe it or not we 
are working on a stroke free zone. It may take awhile 
but you have to start somewhere. 

It "may" be safe to assume he was "solo" since there 
is no mention of a buddy report. 
-------------------------------------- 
Routine Outing Fatal For Diver 
Mourning an unexplained death 
by J. Jioni Palmer 
Staff Writer 

David Scholl developed a passion for Long Island's 
waterways as a child growing up in Lawrence, near 
Jamaica Bay. As a youth, he'd spend countless hours 
fishing and boating, but what he loved most of all was 
diving deep below the ocean waves. 

That love carried through to adulthood as Scholl, 42, 
did a four-year stint in the Navy and worked part time 
at a diving-gear shop in Mineola. He seized every 
opportunity to go out onto the water, even 
volunteering on weekends as an instructor on board the 
dive boat the Seahawk, helping less experienced 
aquanauts hone their skills, relatives said. 

But Saturday, while on a routine jaunt from Freeport 
to a ship wreckage about 18 miles south of Fire Island 
an unexplained tragedy befell Scholl that took his 
life. 

"He was a diving fanatic," says his older brother Fred 
of Wading River, who dives for the New York City Fire 
Department. "His house was like a shrine; it was full 
of artifacts he picked up diving." Saturday's accident 
bewildered Scholl's friends and relatives, who said he 
was an experienced diver. "If anybody got hurt, Dave 
would be the first person to go help," said 
stepdaughter Sarah Silverman, 27. "It's kind of 
shocking that he'd be the one needing to get rescued." 
Scholl had explored the wreckage of the G&D,a coastal 
steamer that sank in 1918,more than a dozen times. He 
had anchored the dive-boat Seahawk to the wreckage 
about 110 feet below the surface on the sandy ocean 
bottom and given the "all-clear sign" indicating that 
it was safe for others to dive, his sister said. 

Not long after that, a fellow crewmember discovered 
his lifeless body near the wreckage. 

He was brought to the surface, where the boat's crew 
administered CPR and radioed the Coast Guard, which 
took him by helicopter to Nassau University Medical 
Center in East Meadow, where he was pronounced dead, 
said Suffolk County Homicide Det. Sgt. Arthur Ahl. 

"There is no indication at this point of a crime," he 
said, adding police were waiting for results of an 
autopsy by the Nassau County medical examiner. 

Divers from Suffolk's Marine Bureau are expected to 
examine the wreckage today in hopes of learning what 
went wrong, he said. 

Scholl's relatives said they hope police recover the 
underwater video camera he was carrying to shed light 
on the incident. 

Grieving friends and relatives yesterday remembered 
Scholl, who worked for the Village of Valley Stream 
driving a recycling truck, as an affable man with a 
generous heart who could light up a room with 
entertaining humor. 

"He was the class clown and the family comedian," said 
his sister Susan McBride, 48, of Rockaway Beach. "He 
was the happy-go-lucky guy that everybody loved." 
Scholl is survived by his companion of 10 years, Sue 
Silverman of Long Beach; his mother, Carole, and 
another sister, Debra; two children and four 
stepchildren. 

A wake will be today from 7-9 p.m. and tomorrow from 
2-4 p.m. and 7-9 p.m. 

at the Meserole Funeral Home in Inwood. Funeral 
services will be Wednesday at 11 a.m. at the Lutheran 
Church of the Incarnation in Cedarhurst, with 
cremation following. 


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    <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT
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    face=Arial></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
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    <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT
color=#0000ff 
    face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=186345313-23052001>Not only did he not
plan 
    his dives! As an inventor, I can only be amazed
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT
color=#0000ff 
    face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=186345313-23052001>that he did not plan
his 
    inventions. Like, he didn't think about trim
???</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT
color=#0000ff 
    face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=186345313-23052001>He was a 
    tinkerer.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT 
    size=2><SPAN
class=186345313-23052001></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
    <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT
color=#0000ff 
    face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=186345313-23052001>Sorry to say that, but
this 
    was an incredibly stupid thing to do but thanks</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT
color=#0000ff 
    face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=186345313-23052001>for the description, it 
    pretty much happened as envisaged.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT 
    size=2><SPAN
class=186345313-23052001></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
    <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT 
    size=2><SPAN class=186345313-23052001> </SPAN>-----Original 
    Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Wahoodiver@ao*.co* 
    [mailto:Wahoodiver@ao*.co*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 22, 2001
9:56 
    AM<BR><B>To:</B> trey@ne*.co*; Wahoodiver@ao*.co*;
plewitsch@ya*.co*; 
    quest@gu*.co*<BR><B>Cc:</B>
techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: 
    Another NE wreck death<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT><FONT 
    face=arial,helvetica><FONT face=Arial lang=0 size=2 
    FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Remember, trying to stand on the top of a sharp point 
    give you very little <BR>purchase. 
    <BR><BR>       I see you have very
little 
    patience nor can you answer a couple of <BR>questions directly without 
    losing you temper. <BR>      No, the last
time 
    I seen Tony Maffatone was last August when he was <BR>stepping off the
deck 
    of my boat alone to test his equipment.  Tony knew the <BR>risks of 
    diving alone and only dove alone, we discussed the risks many times, 
    <BR>Tony dove to invent and invented to dive.  Tony designed and
built 
    all his <BR>equipment, none store bought if it was he took it apart and 
    redesigned it and <BR>made it better.  Tony spent, three years
building 
    his system and 3 months <BR>diving his new design in 15 to 30 feet of
water 
    and this dive the second one <BR>to 100 feet was the next stage of
testing. 
    Tony talked about equipment <BR>failure and he tried to design every
backup 
    into his system, He had just <BR>removed the scuba second  feeling
the 
    rest of his design had all backup <BR>needed. 
    <BR>      From examination of the incident
and 
    equipment,  there was design <BR>fault with tank balance, if the
lowest 
    tank of the seven tanks was drained <BR>empty and others more than half
full 
    it flipped him on his back up side down. <BR>The system weighs out of
water 
    265 lbs in water 150 lbs, Tony struggled to <BR>right himself he cut his 
    suit legs to get the gas out and right himself but <BR>being upside down
the 
    XO FFM mask flooded he cut both his shoulder harness <BR>and made a free 
    assent, rising feet first  upside down and didn't make it. <BR>Like 
    Berman and  Exley Tony was pioneer and didn't die sitting at his 
    <BR>computer and talking diving.
<BR>      He 
    died following his dream, maybe not the way he say he would choose,
<BR>but 
    he did choose his time and place. We grieve Tony, like many will grieve 
    <BR>Steve Bermans and Dave.
<BR>      You only 
    think you are in control, I hope you never lose it. <BR><BR>Captain
Steve 
    Bielenda <BR>In a message dated 5/22/2001 6:51:13 AM Eastern Daylight
Time, 
    <BR>trey@ne*.co* writes: <BR><BR><BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE 
    style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px;
PADDING-LEFT: 5px" 
    TYPE="CITE">Subj:<B>RE: Another NE wreck death</B> <BR>Date:
5/22/2001 
      6:51:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time <BR><I>From: 
         trey@ne*.co* (Trey) <BR>To: 
         Wahoodiver@ao*.co*, plewitsch@ya*.co*, quest@gu*.co* 
      <BR>CC:    techdiver@aquanaut.com 
      <BR></I><BR><BR><BR><BR></FONT><FONT
color=#0000ff face=Arial lang=0 
      size=4 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Belinda, bullshit. Do not waste our time with 
      your slop. You just never <BR>learn, do you? Seen Tony Maffatone
lately? 
      Keep up the piss poor example <BR>and the hard headed baloney. 
      </FONT><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial lang=0 size=3 
      FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT color=#000000
face=Tahoma lang=0 
      size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR><B>From:</B> Wahoodiver@ao*.co* 
      [mailto:Wahoodiver@ao*.co*] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 21,
2001 8:43 PM 
      <BR><B>To:</B> trey@ne*.co*; plewitsch@ya*.co*; quest@gu*.co* 
      <BR><B>Cc:</B> techdiver@aquanaut.com
<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Another NE 
      wreck death <BR><BR><BR></FONT><FONT color=#000000
face=arial lang=0 
      size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">
      <BLOCKQUOTE 
      style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT:
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" 
      TYPE="CITE">Why do you have to have a buddy? 
        <BR>     This guy had a massive heart
attack 
        and died almost instantly, his <BR>video camera showed 22 minutes of 
        video and a shudder and the camera <BR>dropped <BR>along with his 
        mounted light, he started to inflate his buoyance system <BR>and 
        <BR>died his light snaged into the wreck and held his body there. 
        <BR>Where was Steve Berman dive buddy? <BR>Are the rules
different for 
        different area around the world, such as cave, <BR>NE <BR>wreck
southern 
        waters west coast or where ever? <BR>This is not an argument just
some 
        information and questions. <BR>Risk management is done by each diver 
        themselves and the risk they are <BR>willing to take when diving
alone 
        are there own or with a dive partner, <BR>solo <BR>divers do not
put 
        others at risk. <BR>     You may not like
it 
        but that the facts. NE wreck diving has had its <BR>share of diving 
        deaths as many other areas of the world but non comes any <BR>were
near 
        the high count of cave diving deaths around the world, with and 
        <BR>without there buddies. <BR><BR>Captain Steve Bielenda
<BR><BR>In a 
        message dated 5/15/01 7:54:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
        <BR>trey@ne*.co* <BR>writes: <BR><BR><BR>
        <BLOCKQUOTE 
        style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT:
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" 
        TYPE="CITE">Subj: <B>RE: Another NE wreck death</B> <BR>Date:
5/15/01 
          7:54:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time <BR><I>From: 
             trey@ne*.co* (Trey) <BR>To: 
             plewitsch@ya*.co* (Paul Lewitsch), quest@gu*.co* 
          <BR>CC:    techdiver@aquanaut.com 
          <BR></I><BR><BR><BR><BR>Paul, NE diving is a
disgrace - partially due 
          to the bullshit, and more <BR>due <BR>to the fact that the rest
of you 
          go along with it. <BR><BR>Let me ask a question, and you NE
divers can 
          get out your dictionary to <BR>look <BR>up this word: "Where
was this 
          guy's B U D D Y ? <BR><BR>-----Original Message-----
<BR>From: Paul 
          Lewitsch [mailto:plewitsch@ya*.co*] <BR>Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 
          1:43 PM <BR>To: quest@gu*.co* <BR>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com 
          <BR>Subject: Another NE wreck death <BR><BR><BR>Anyone
know the actual 
          situation of what happened? <BR>George,you can disregard this
email 
          and hit delete. We <BR>know your views on NE diving and believe it
or 
          not we <BR>are working on a stroke free zone. It may take awhile 
          <BR>but you have to start somewhere. <BR><BR>It "may" be
safe to 
          assume he was "solo" since there <BR>is no mention of a buddy
report. 
          <BR>-------------------------------------- <BR>Routine Outing
Fatal 
          For Diver <BR>Mourning an unexplained death <BR>by J. Jioni
Palmer 
          <BR>Staff Writer <BR><BR>David Scholl developed a passion
for Long 
          Island's <BR>waterways as a child growing up in Lawrence, near 
          <BR>Jamaica Bay. As a youth, he'd spend countless hours
<BR>fishing 
          and boating, but what he loved most of all was <BR>diving deep
below 
          the ocean waves. <BR><BR>That love carried through to adulthood
as 
          Scholl, 42, <BR>did a four-year stint in the Navy and worked part
time 
          <BR>at a diving-gear shop in Mineola. He seized every
<BR>opportunity 
          to go out onto the water, even <BR>volunteering on weekends as an 
          instructor on board the <BR>dive boat the Seahawk, helping less 
          experienced <BR>aquanauts hone their skills, relatives said. 
          <BR><BR>But Saturday, while on a routine jaunt from Freeport
<BR>to a 
          ship wreckage about 18 miles south of Fire Island <BR>an
unexplained 
          tragedy befell Scholl that took his <BR>life. <BR><BR>"He
was a diving 
          fanatic," says his older brother Fred <BR>of Wading River, who
dives 
          for the New York City Fire <BR>Department. "His house was like a 
          shrine; it was full <BR>of artifacts he picked up diving."
Saturday's 
          accident <BR>bewildered Scholl's friends and relatives, who said
he 
          <BR>was an experienced diver. "If anybody got hurt, Dave
<BR>would be 
          the first person to go help," said <BR>stepdaughter Sarah
Silverman, 
          27. "It's kind of <BR>shocking that he'd be the one needing to get 
          rescued." <BR>Scholl had explored the wreckage of the G&D,a 
          coastal <BR>steamer that sank in 1918,more than a dozen times. He 
          <BR>had anchored the dive-boat Seahawk to the wreckage
<BR>about 110 
          feet below the surface on the sandy ocean <BR>bottom and given the 
          "all-clear sign" indicating that <BR>it was safe for others to
dive, 
          his sister said. <BR><BR>Not long after that, a fellow
crewmember 
          discovered <BR>his lifeless body near the wreckage.
<BR><BR>He was 
          brought to the surface, where the boat's crew <BR>administered CPR
and 
          radioed the Coast Guard, which <BR>took him by helicopter to
Nassau 
          University Medical <BR>Center in East Meadow, where he was
pronounced 
          dead, <BR>said Suffolk County Homicide Det. Sgt. Arthur Ahl. 
          <BR><BR>"There is no indication at this point of a crime," he 
          <BR>said, adding police were waiting for results of an
<BR>autopsy by 
          the Nassau County medical examiner. <BR><BR>Divers from
Suffolk's 
          Marine Bureau are expected to <BR>examine the wreckage today in
hopes 
          of learning what <BR>went wrong, he said. <BR><BR>Scholl's
relatives 
          said they hope police recover the <BR>underwater video camera he
was 
          carrying to shed light <BR>on the incident. <BR><BR>Grieving
friends 
          and relatives yesterday remembered <BR>Scholl, who worked for the 
          Village of Valley Stream <BR>driving a recycling truck, as an
affable 
          man with a <BR>generous heart who could light up a room with 
          <BR>entertaining humor. <BR><BR>"He was the class clown and
the family 
          comedian," said <BR>his sister Susan McBride, 48, of Rockaway
Beach. 
          "He <BR>was the happy-go-lucky guy that everybody loved."
<BR>Scholl 
          is survived by his companion of 10 years, Sue <BR>Silverman of
Long 
          Beach; his mother, Carole, and <BR>another sister, Debra; two
children 
          and four <BR>stepchildren. <BR><BR>A wake will be today from
7-9 p.m. 
          and tomorrow from <BR>2-4 p.m. and 7-9 p.m. <BR><BR>at the
Meserole 
          Funeral Home in Inwood. Funeral <BR>services will be Wednesday at
11 
          a.m. at the Lutheran <BR>Church of the Incarnation in Cedarhurst,
with 
          <BR>cremation following. 
         
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