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<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" link="#33CCFF" vlink="#FF99FF" alink="#FF0000"> Bob, <p>You can send the <u>valveless</u> cylinder directly to Luxfer Gas Cylinders, 3016 Kansas Avenue, Riverside, Calif. 92507 USA; telephone 909-684-5110; fax 909-781-6598 yourself with a copy of the test results and $50 bucks. They will replace it. You need to call them and get a Returned Goods Authorization number first. After you pay the shipping one way, you'll have about another $25 in it going UPS ground. Not hardly worth the trouble and yes, inconsistent with the "Luxfer Lifetime Warranty" we were all promised years ago. Luxfer and aluminum cylinders in general have lost my trust. <p>Luxfer is not the party who originally came up with the Visual Plus system although they did assist in its development. Once it was developed in response to safety issues concerning several catastrophic failures beginning in June 1994, they recognized it's inherent value and embraced the technology. <p>Sustained Load Cracking in the crown threads is a very real and serious problem with aluminum cylinders of all makes. The equivalent explosive force is approximately equal to that of 50 pounds of 50% TNT going off. It can maim, kill and destroy everyone and everything in sight. <p>For this reason and as the "<u>Sustained Load</u> Cracking" phrase implies, all cylinders should be stored with between 100-500 psi if not going to be used for extended periods of time. When filling, the fill rate should never exceed 600 psi per minutes to allow material sufficient time to expand correctly without cracking. <p>To my knowledge, no one has initiated a class action regarding the warranty issue to date. I sure wish someone would since I own approximately 12 of the mid pre-1988 POS cylinders that contained the 6351-T6 alloy that is believed responsible for this problem. If you hear of one, let me know and I'll contribute if it's reasonable. <a href="http://www.divelawyer.com/">Alton Hall</a> may have information regarding such an action. <p>I find it amusing if not distressing that many of these cylinders are appearing on E-Bay on a regular basis to which I notified E-Bay and they refused to take appropriate action. It will be interesting to see the legal ramifications of their policy once one of these cylinders explodes and causes damages ~ another potential case for Alton. <p>For current Luxfer Replacement Policies, <a href="http://www.luxfercylinders.com/news_articles.asp4.htm">Click Here</a>. <p>From a Luxfer Seminar at the February 2001 DEMA Show, <a href="http://www.luxfercylinders.com/scubafaq.html">More Details Click Here</a>. <br>I don't necessarily agree with everything Luxfer states here as fact, but most of it is accurate if one keeps in mind they hold a vested interest in how it is composed and comprehended by readers and the legal community. <p>There is also a wealth of information regarding this subject in the Federal Register if you care to do a search for it.. <p>This is an older list of the cylinders in question. The links above have pushed some of the dates up. <p>Luxfer USA Ltd. (909) 684-5110 <br>SUSPECT CYLINDERS - LUXFER 6351 ALLOY <p> &n bsp; Series No's E6498 SP6498 DOT-3AL manufactured up <br> & nbsp; to 01/89 <p> &n bsp; ALL DOT-3AL tanks under no's 6498, 7042, 8107, <br> & nbsp; 8364, 8422 <p> &n bsp; All composite tanks under no's 7235, 8023, 8115 <p> &n bsp; All Walter Kidde DOT-3AL TANKS <p> &n bsp; All Cliff Impact DOT-3AL tanks made before July <br> & nbsp; 1990 <p> &n bsp; All Luxfer 80.8 cu ft tanks made before May 1987 <p> &n bsp; All Luxfer Scuba tanks made before August 1987 <p> &n bsp; All other US manufactured tanks made before Feb <br> & nbsp; 1990 except CATALINA - which were NEVER made from <br> & nbsp; 6351-T6 <br> & nbsp; alloy <p>Best Regards, <p>Jerry Gilbert <br>Crawfordville, Florida <br><a href="mailto:CaptainJerry@Ta*.Co*">mailto:CaptainJerry@Talstar.Com</a> <br> <p>You Wrote: <p>From: "Robert Barbarite" <barbarite@ea*.ne*> <br>Subject: Luxfer Scuba Cylinders <br>Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 15:11:15 -0400 <br> <br> <p>I would like to get information on luxfer's policy regarding aluminum <br>cylinders that fail the Visual Plus test. I think this is a test designed <br>by Luxfer? <p>I've recently been told (by a local shop) that Luxfer will replace the <br>cylinder, thru the local shop, but it will cost me $100.00. Is this shop <br>being straight? <p>This doesn't sound like a terrific deal considering the cylinders were <br>originally sold with a lifetime warranty. <p>Is anyone aware of any class action suits pending against Luxfer over this <br>issue? <p>Regards, <br>Bob Barbarite <br>Marriottsville, MD </body> </html> -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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