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From: "George Irvine" <George-Irvine@em*.ne*>
To: "Jim Thompson" <jim@pa*.co*>,
     "Techdiver@Aquanaut. Com"
Subject: Re: Civility WAS:RE BITE THE BIG APPLE
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 18:56:53 -0400
Jim, this list would be a Star Wars bar scene like the IANTD list is if the
idiots were treated as other than idiots.

These dive industry types are all just upset that I blew the whistle on
their deep air diving and their stroke gear selling, and made assholes out
of them when they tried to argue with me.

If I were wrong, I would have been blown out a long time ago, just like they
were. Now they want me to be nice and tell them to not do stupid things now
that they have mostly been embarrassed or ass kicked into it.

I am not in the dive business, so I can say whatever I want. They can take
it or leave it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Thompson" <jim@pa*.co*>
To: "Techdiver@Aquanaut. Com" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 6:20 PM
Subject: Civility WAS:RE BITE THE BIG APPLE


> You may have a point, but they didn't communicate with the shear numbers
of
> divers that is currently on the lists.
>
> Unfortunately, I think it TAKES a slap in the face for many to listen ...
> *Trey's technique* it appears, *has done much to change the way that
people
> look at diving*.
>
> Long ago, I believed that kindler and more genital approach from Trey
would
> accomplish more.......Then *I* grew up.
>
> *The industry NEEDS Trey's sometimes harsh word.*
>
> I remember a few years ago the ramifications for telling one *leading*
local
> Tech. Instructor that I thought it was wrong for agencies to push the
depth
> issue and that I personally did not dive air or Enx much past 100'. I wish
> then I was armed with some of Trey's emails and history.
>
> Civility did LITTLE to get the word out about: Oh never mind the list IS
TOO
> LONG
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HeliumDiver@ao*.co* [mailto:HeliumDiver@ao*.co*]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 10:33 AM
> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com; trey@ne*.co*
> Subject: Re: Adam wanting a bite of the apple Was Re: Story behind DUI 400
> gram Thinsu...
>
> In a message dated 5/14/2001 8:46:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> trey@ne*.co* writes:
>
> >  I never "demanded" proof from Bill Gavin when he told me where and how
> they
> >  tested things
>
> Gavin, Exley, Turner and others from whom you learned diving but not
> civility
> were well
> liked and well respected.  It's no wonder that people frequently accepted
> what they
> said on faith but do otherwise with you.
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