Mark, When I first joined the list, I admit, I was a bit surprised by Trey's tone. I was hesitant to pose any sort of question to the list for fear of getting slammed. But, you know what? If you ask questions here, they get answered. The problem starts when somebody starts spouting bullshit information like they know what the hell is going on. Somebody out there who is eager for knowledge will see the bullshit and may be tempted to believe. Trey treating the strokes like lepers tends to expose the stupidity. Bad information needs to be stopped in its tracks before someone goes and gets themselves killed based on stupidity propogated by some less-than-informed person who pretends to know "the deal". ---">C'mon, far fewer people learn through abuse than learn through reasoned >discussion. How many have chosen to reject the entire message because of >this?"--- "Reasoned discussion" invites counter argument. There is no room for counter argument with DIR. It's DIR because it's right. It's been tried, evolved, and ironed out, all at no expense to those who wish to learn without insisting they know better. There are damn good reasons for doing every minor detail the way Trey does it, and they make a lot of sense. Ask the "how", understand the "why", and it's really quite clear. Understanding the "why" is where most people get wrapped around the axle. If you don't understand the "why", go to High Springs or Ft. Lauderdale and learn it. And, before someone takes a shot at my manhood, I am the last person on this planet who wants or needs to kiss anyone's ass, for any reason whatsoever. I do, however, give credit where it is due. I am all about improving my survivablilty in everything I do, and I shudder to think where I might be right now if I had not found DIR. ---"I contend >that more information on rebreathers is disseminated there now that Trey has >been booted than would otherwise exist."--- A pile of shit is a pile of shit. Bigger piles just means a bigger mess. Want to see who knows breathers? Watch how far Wakulla goes out this summer. Want to see who doesn't? Watch the body count from everyone else. ---No matter how you rationalize it, >there is no excuse for the nihilistic approach that satisfies the ego more >than the commonweal."--- The message needs to be driven home. Ego has nothing to do with it. The only egos involved are the fragile ones of those who insist they know better, even in the face of evidence to the contrary. Being right means never having to say, "I'm sorry." , and never having to compromise S/F, Duane -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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