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Hi Aldo Clearly you underestimate me, check the archives and you will see I'm not afraid of anyone on this list, for any reason. You are to new to the list to understand or you are a troll. I'm sorry, but I don't think you have a clue. Be a smart little boy and go read the archives. JT At 05:40 PM 4/27/01 +0000, Aldo P. Solari [APS] wrote: >Dear Capt. JT, as Jens observed, I, for one, appreciate your >honest replies and way of exposing your diving approaches, too. >You have defined yourself as a diver having fun, seeing no need >to formalize your approaches/ideas. Dont be afraid of >criticism which is productive. > >However, I appreciate, as well, the efforts of the DIR-teams >because they are developing a *very important framework* for >diving (if you cannt realize this because your anima-aversion for >G. Irvine, you will not be able to learn a lot of useful things >from these guys). All approaches have a relative value. However, >the development of a framework (any framework) takes much time, >efforts and money. Also, many of these (DIR) guys are risking >their lives being "guinea pigs" for testing and development of >decompression models and procedures, gas mixes, testing of >equipment, data sampling, etc. As I see it, all of that work is >of __great instrinsic value__: they are setting up something (a >"system") from which everyone may benefit. That's because the >development of a framework goes well beyond the mere act of >diving and having fun, it is formalized and it may accept >criticism (from scientists, doctors, authorities and other >divers) and it will evolve-trough-criticism and logical >inference. > >cheers, > >aldo.solari@ho*.se* >www.ccbb.ulpgc.es/fish-ecology/solaris >___ > >captjt@mi*.co* > >CJ> First, lets make something clear, when doing these very deep >CJ> dives several things must take place before the dive is even >CJ> considered and they have nothing to do with any kind of >CJ> "system". For starters you must have a solid reason for doing >CJ> the dive, to merely dive to a very deep depth is nonsense. >CJ> Second, to do the dive without a dive buddy or support group >CJ> is crazy. Then you have to find a Capt who has enough faith >CJ> in you to take you to the dive site. On top of those things >CJ> you must have the experience and lots of it at a shallower >CJ> depth and must be mentally tested, meaning if you can't get >CJ> it done at 200ft(and that means all the time) what makes you >CJ> think 300ft and deeper will be any easier. Somebody must be >CJ> in charge, everyone else must agree on what he says, but also >CJ> strong enough to go against that person should he be wrong. >CJ> KNOW your own limits. Diving is not that hard, we are not >CJ> creating new dive tables, any new mixes, or any of the >CJ> cutting edge stuff. We like to dive/wreck dive, cut and dry. >CJ> The thrill I get from diving deep wrecks and new unknown >CJ> wrecks I cannot describe. For diving very deep wrecks your >CJ> asking for a system, no system exists that I know of, there >CJ> are better ways to do it, but there is no fast way, everyone >CJ> looks to cut corners on experience to get to the next level, >CJ> why, your cheating yourself out of half the fun. > > > >>This would enable us to learn out of your assumptions/experience > >>and you might (possibly) improve your approach through the > >>criticism of other senior divers. > >CJ> Lets be real here, criticism is all you get on this list, the >CJ> only guys I know who actually do these kinds of dives don't >CJ> post, there is no gain in it for them. Most of the guys who >CJ> post on here are so intimidated by Trey they won't go against >CJ> him and usually end up supporting him because they don't have >CJ> the experience or skill to beat him in a debate, the ones >CJ> that can beat him won't stoop as low as he does to win a >CJ> debate. I am an average diver, I will not engage in debates >CJ> that are out of my knowledge range, I'm not trying to solve >CJ> any secrets to decompression, I'm not experimenting with any >CJ> new gas. I'm diving and having a lot of fun. My contribution >CJ> to diving is first hand honest answers, there are very few >CJ> perfect dives, that's when everything goes exactly to plan, >CJ> on most dives there is always something that happens >CJ> unexpectedly. The open ocean is a very unforgiving place, >CJ> things can change in an instance, it may be something you >CJ> did, your buddy, mother nature, gear failure, it doesn't >CJ> matter what or how. How you handle that change can result in >CJ> a life or death scenario. Basic rules sit the tone of a dive. > >... "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in the water" Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more Web Site http://www.capt-jt.com/ Email captjt@mi*.co* -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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