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There is a huge concentration of deep air,independent doubles,IANTD =
cowboys on Vancouver Island.There seem to be fatalities on a regular =
annual basis there.
I guess this is Nadeau's legacy.
Was he not the expert who publicly questioned Jablonski's " cave diving =
knowledge" at that IANTD thing in Nanaimo last September ???
Later,
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Scott=20
To: Techlist ; George Irvine=20
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 7:37 AM
Subject: RE: Isolating Manifold Question
George,
Bill Nadeau (spelling?) was teaching shit like this to a bunch of the =
IANTD victims he left here in the PNW. The upside down isolator =
bullshit, or they have no isolator at all, just a cross bar. They also =
do shit like stuffed long hoses, Trashpaks, double OMS 66's, OMS steel =
46 bottles for stages, AL30 pony bottles hard mounted between the dubs, =
etc.=20
The reasons (this is the stone truth, direct quotes) provided by his =
students:
"I was taught in life guards school to never have anything around my =
neck" as reason for stuffing the long hose.
"You're getting the hose I give you or nothing at all." when asked =
about how to get to the backup reg in a hurry.
"Don't need one, that's for cave divers." when asked about no isolator
"So the guy at the fill station wont mess with it and turn it off for =
me." when asked about the upside down isolator knob.
You can instantly ID any of Nadeau's or Weinberg's victims from across =
the parking lot. Big ass IANTD stickers on everything. However, to tell =
what the actual mix in the bottles is, you have to read what was written =
with a ball point pen in a small space on the huge IANTD stickers.
Ask JJ how they got treated when he and Andrew went to Canada for the =
Technical Diving conference (IANTD circle jerk).
Soon as they (the local IANTD cadre) heard you guys were coming to the =
Scuba festival, they ran like scalded dogs. Within 1/2 hour of my posts =
that you guys were coming, the phone started ringing at the organizers =
desk, warning of impending doom if you guys were "allowed" to attend.
I wonder why they dont want to be seen on the same lawn with you guys? =
(rhetorical)=20
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: George Irvine [mailto:kirvine@sa*.ne*]
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 4:00 AM
To: David E. Smith; David Sweetin
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Isolating Manifold Question
Dave, now that you have put out this piece of complete bullshit and =
in your little mind successfully obfuscated the realities that actually =
go into the thinking of manifold operation underwater in diving ( and =
there is no way you do jack shit in diving ), why don't you go ahead an =
entertain us all by telling us what kind of blithering idiot turns the =
isolator knob upside down? Since you are such a big "expert" on valves, =
maybe you can tell us all what this accomplishes, besides acting as a =
visible "tip of the iceberg" warning to anyone who sees you that you are =
a complete stroke who has no clue and is likely to act in a bad =
situation just as one could expect by this kind of rabbits foot =
thinking?=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>There is a huge concentration of deep =
air,independent=20
doubles,IANTD cowboys on Vancouver Island.There seem to be fatalities on =
a=20
regular annual basis there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I guess this is Nadeau's legacy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Was he not the expert who publicly questioned =
Jablonski's=20
" cave diving knowledge" at that IANTD thing in Nanaimo last =
September=20
???</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Later,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dscottk@nw*.co* =
href=3D"mailto:scottk@nw*.co*">Scott</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com=20
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">Techlist</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dkirvine@sa*.ne* href=3D"mailto:kirvine@sa*.ne*">George =
Irvine</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 19,
2001 =
7:37=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Isolating
Manifold =
Question</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D580415113-19042001><SPAN=20
class=3D290031214-19042001>George,</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D580415113-19042001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D580415113-19042001><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2>Bill Nadeau (spelling?) <SPAN=20
class=3D290031214-19042001>was teaching shit like this to a =
bunch=20
of</SPAN> the IANTD victims he left here in the PNW<SPAN=20
class=3D290031214-19042001>.</SPAN> <SPAN =
class=3D290031214-19042001>The=20
</SPAN>upside down isolator bullshit, or they have no isolator at all, =
just a=20
cross bar. They also do shit like stuffed <SPAN=20
class=3D290031214-19042001>long</SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D290031214-19042001>=20
</SPAN>hoses, Trashpaks, double OMS 66's, <SPAN=20
class=3D290031214-19042001>OMS steel 46 bottles for stages, AL30 pony =
bottles=20
hard mounted between the dubs, </SPAN>etc.<SPAN =
class=3D290031214-19042001>=20
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D580415113-19042001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D580415113-19042001><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2>The reasons<SPAN =
class=3D290031214-19042001> (this is=20
the stone truth, direct quotes) provided by his students</SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D290031214-19042001>:</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN>&l
t;/DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D580415113-19042001><SPAN=20
=
class=3D290031214-19042001></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nb
sp;</DIV=
>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D580415113-19042001><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2>"I was taught in life guards school to =
never have=20
anything around <SPAN class=3D290031214-19042001>my</SPAN> =
neck" <SPAN=20
class=3D290031214-19042001>as reason </SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D290031214-19042001>for=20
stuffing the long
hose.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D580415113-19042001><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
=
class=3D290031214-19042001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN>&nb
sp;</DIV=
>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D580415113-19042001><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2>"You're getting the hose I give you or =
nothing at=20
all."<SPAN class=3D290031214-19042001> when asked about how to get to =
the=20
backup reg in a
hurry.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D580415113-19042001><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
=
class=3D290031214-19042001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN>&nb
sp;</DIV=
>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D580415113-19042001><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D290031214-19042001>"Don't =
need one,=20
that's for cave divers." when asked about no=20
isolator</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D580415113-19042001><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
=
class=3D290031214-19042001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN>&nb
sp;</DIV=
>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D580415113-19042001><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D290031214-19042001>"So =
the guy at the=20
fill station wont mess with it and turn it off for me." when asked =
about the=20
upside down isolator
knob.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D580415113-19042001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D580415113-19042001><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2>You can instantly ID any of Nade<SPAN=20
class=3D290031214-19042001>a</SPAN>u's <SPAN =
class=3D290031214-19042001>or=20
Weinberg's </SPAN>victims from across the parking lot.<SPAN=20
class=3D290031214-19042001> Big ass IANTD stickers on everything. =
However, to=20
tell what the actual mix in the bottles is, you have to read what =
was=20
written with a ball point pen in a small space on the huge IANTD=20
stickers.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D580415113-19042001><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D290031214-19042001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><
;FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D580415113-19042001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D580415113-19042001><SPAN class=3D290031214-19042001>Ask JJ how =
they got=20
treated when he and Andrew went to Canada for the Technical Diving =
conference=20
(IANTD circle jerk).</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D580415113-19042001><SPAN=20
class=3D290031214-19042001></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D580415113-19042001><SPAN class=3D290031214-19042001>Soon as =
they (the=20
local IANTD cadre) heard you guys were coming to the Scuba =
festival, they=20
ran like scalded dogs. Within 1/2 hour of my posts that you guys=20
were coming, the phone started ringing at the organizers desk, =
warning of=20
impending doom if you guys were "allowed" to=20
attend.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D580415113-19042001><SPAN=20
class=3D290031214-19042001></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D580415113-19042001><SPAN class=3D290031214-19042001>I wonder =
why they dont=20
want to be seen on the same lawn with you guys?=20
(rhetorical) </SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D580415113-19042001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D580415113-19042001><SPAN=20
=
class=3D290031214-19042001>Scott</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV></FONT
></DIV>
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face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> George
Irvine=20
[mailto:kirvine@sa*.ne*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 18, =
2001 4:00=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> David E. Smith; David
Sweetin<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Isolating Manifold=20
Question<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Dave, now that you have put out this piece of =
complete=20
bullshit and in your little mind successfully obfuscated the =
realities that=20
actually go into the thinking of manifold operation underwater in =
diving (=20
and there is no way you do jack shit in diving ), why don't you go =
ahead an=20
entertain us all by telling us what kind of blithering idiot turns =
the=20
isolator knob upside down? Since you are such a big "expert" on =
valves,=20
maybe you can tell us all what this accomplishes, besides acting as =
a=20
visible "tip of the iceberg" warning to anyone who sees you that you =
are a=20
complete stroke who has no clue and is likely to act in a bad =
situation just=20
as one could expect by this kind of rabbits foot thinking?=20
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