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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00FD_01C0C84A.5297F780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Travis, You are wrong. (or outdated as a minimum) Were you even a Nuclear MM or just on a Nuclear Powered Ship? Dave dsmith218@ho*.co* ICQ# 25409809 Moderation is for the poor, and the healthy...of which I am neither. - Polver -----Original Message----- From: Trav H. [mailto:neoreborn@ho*.co*] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 8:59 PM To: dsmith218@ho*.co*; JoelSilverstein@sn*.ne*; RDecker388@ao*.co*; rikard.lundgren@sw*.se* Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: RE: Isolating Manifold Question Funny, I spent quite a few years on nuclear powered ships too. and from your post I take it that you have never done a valve line-up in front of ORSE. Because they do consider a valve the way that it has been discussed. travis (ex MM1 SW) >Funny. > I operate Nuclear Power Reactors for the US Navy. We actually submerge >ours plants in >Sea Water. It seems a little more related to this topic. I do understand >valve construction. >It would appear that I understand them better than you. A valve is NEVER >considered shut >unless it is FULLY SHUT (and in some cases torqued shut). In some cases, we >take credit for >a valve being fully opened even when we know it is partially open. So take >your >argument to someone who doesn't know any better. >dsmith218@ho*.co* >ICQ# 25409809 > >Moderation is for the poor, and the healthy...of which I am neither. - >Polver > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Trav H. [mailto:neoreborn@ho*.co*] >Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 8:40 PM >To: dsmith218@ho*.co*; JoelSilverstein@sn*.ne*; RDecker388@ao*.co*; >rikard.lundgren@sw*.se* >Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com >Subject: RE: Isolating Manifold Question > > >sorry, but it is not a good argument. I am new to DIR but I have been in >the nuclear power industry for over ten years now. And if you understood >valve characteristics you would leave this subject alone and realize that >the people here are trying to keep you alive by not making mistakes that >they have worked out or seen others make. The nuclear industry treats >valves the same way...if it is not fully open then it considered shut. The >only time we throttle valves it to restrict flow in a system. Not to >mention that the more you leave a valve throttled the more likely valve >damage is to occur. > >Travis H. > > > > > > >I say again, louder... > > > >If it is not shut, it is open. > > > >(This is a good argument, don't you think?) > > > >dsmith218@ho*.co* > >ICQ# 25409809 > > > >Moderation is for the poor, and the healthy...of which I am neither. - > >Polver > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Joel Silverstein [mailto:JoelSilverstein@sn*.ne*] > >Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 12:48 AM > >To: David E. Smith; RDecker388@ao*.co*; rikard.lundgren@sw*.se* > >Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com > >Subject: RE: Isolating Manifold Question > > > > > >If it's not open it's closed. > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >---- >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------=_NextPart_000_00FD_01C0C84A.5297F780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dwindows-1252" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.3019.2500" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DTahoma><SPAN=20 class=3D770245700-19042001>Travis,</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DTahoma><SPAN = class=3D770245700-19042001>You are=20 wrong. (or outdated as a minimum)</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DTahoma><SPAN = class=3D770245700-19042001>Were you=20 even a Nuclear MM or just on a Nuclear Powered Ship?</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DTahoma><SPAN=20 class=3D770245700-19042001>Dave</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <P><FONT size=3D4><FONT color=3D#808000=20 face=3D"Lucida Handwriting">dsmith218@ho*.co*<BR></FONT><FONT = color=3D#000080=20 face=3DTahoma>ICQ# 25409809</FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT color=3D#ff0000 face=3D"Monotype Corsiva" size=3D4>Moderation = is for the=20 poor, and the healthy...of which I am neither. - Polver<BR> = </FONT></P> <DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Trav H.=20 [mailto:neoreborn@ho*.co*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 18, 2001 = 8:59=20 PM<BR><B>To:</B> dsmith218@ho*.co*; JoelSilverstein@sn*.ne*;=20 RDecker388@ao*.co*; rikard.lundgren@sw*.se*<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20 techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Isolating Manifold=20 Question<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <P>Funny, I spent quite a few years on nuclear powered ships too. = and from=20 your post I take it that you have never done a valve line-up in front of = ORSE. Because they do consider a valve the way that it has been=20 discussed. </P> <P>travis (ex MM1 SW)</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <DIV></DIV>>Funny.=20 <DIV></DIV>> I operate Nuclear Power Reactors for the US Navy. We = actually=20 submerge=20 <DIV></DIV>>ours plants in=20 <DIV></DIV>>Sea Water. It seems a little more related to this topic. = I do=20 understand=20 <DIV></DIV>>valve construction.=20 <DIV></DIV>>It would appear that I understand them better than you. A = valve=20 is NEVER=20 <DIV></DIV>>considered shut=20 <DIV></DIV>>unless it is FULLY SHUT (and in some cases torqued shut). = In some=20 cases, we=20 <DIV></DIV>>take credit for=20 <DIV></DIV>>a valve being fully opened even when we know it is = partially=20 open. So take=20 <DIV></DIV>>your=20 <DIV></DIV>>argument to someone who doesn't know any better.=20 <DIV></DIV>>dsmith218@ho*.co*=20 <DIV></DIV>>ICQ# 25409809=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>Moderation is for the poor, and the healthy...of which I = am=20 neither. -=20 <DIV></DIV>>Polver=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>-----Original Message-----=20 <DIV></DIV>>From: Trav H. [mailto:neoreborn@ho*.co*]=20 <DIV></DIV>>Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 8:40 PM=20 <DIV></DIV>>To: dsmith218@ho*.co*; JoelSilverstein@sn*.ne*;=20 RDecker388@ao*.co*;=20 <DIV></DIV>>rikard.lundgren@sw*.se*=20 <DIV></DIV>>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com=20 <DIV></DIV>>Subject: RE: Isolating Manifold Question=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>sorry, but it is not a good argument. I am new to DIR but = I have=20 been in=20 <DIV></DIV>>the nuclear power industry for over ten years now. And if = you=20 understood=20 <DIV></DIV>>valve characteristics you would leave this subject alone = and=20 realize that=20 <DIV></DIV>>the people here are trying to keep you alive by not = making=20 mistakes that=20 <DIV></DIV>>they have worked out or seen others make. The nuclear = industry=20 treats=20 <DIV></DIV>>valves the same way...if it is not fully open then it = considered=20 shut. The=20 <DIV></DIV>>only time we throttle valves it to restrict flow in a = system. Not=20 to=20 <DIV></DIV>>mention that the more you leave a valve throttled the = more likely=20 valve=20 <DIV></DIV>>damage is to occur.=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>Travis H.=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>> >=20 <DIV></DIV>> >I say again, louder...=20 <DIV></DIV>> >=20 <DIV></DIV>> >If it is not shut, it is open.=20 <DIV></DIV>> >=20 <DIV></DIV>> >(This is a good argument, don't you think?)=20 <DIV></DIV>> >=20 <DIV></DIV>> >dsmith218@ho*.co*=20 <DIV></DIV>> >ICQ# 25409809=20 <DIV></DIV>> >=20 <DIV></DIV>> >Moderation is for the poor, and the healthy...of = which I am=20 neither. -=20 <DIV></DIV>> >Polver=20 <DIV></DIV>> >=20 <DIV></DIV>> >=20 <DIV></DIV>> >-----Original Message-----=20 <DIV></DIV>> >From: Joel Silverstein = [mailto:JoelSilverstein@sn*.ne*]=20 <DIV></DIV>> >Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 12:48 AM=20 <DIV></DIV>> >To: David E. Smith; RDecker388@ao*.co*;=20 rikard.lundgren@sw*.se*=20 <DIV></DIV>> >Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com=20 <DIV></DIV>> >Subject: RE: Isolating Manifold Question=20 <DIV></DIV>> >=20 <DIV></DIV>> >=20 <DIV></DIV>> >If it's not open it's closed.=20 <DIV></DIV>> >=20 <DIV></DIV>> >=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>----------------------------------------------------------= ------------------=20 <DIV></DIV>>----=20 <DIV></DIV>>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at = http://explorer.msn.com=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV><BR clear=3Dall> <HR> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <A=20 href=3D"http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</A><BR> <P></P></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_00FD_01C0C84A.5297F780-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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