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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: <fossildiver@mi*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: Canister Lights / Bitz
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 20:01:51 -0400

Jarrod and I use 20 AH nicad batteries in our HID cave exploration lights
and get 13 hours burn , but this is not necessary for most diving. The
canister is 1/4 inch wider than for the 14 AH lead acid ( the nicads are 20
ah at a one hour rate, the lead acid 14 at a 20 hr rate). The problems are
that charging is expensive, the battery tabs and connections must be spot
welded or you lose voltage, and the batteries are finicky so you need plenty
of spares at $80 per cell  ( they can only be bought in a 24 cell box ).

Nicads ( dry cell nicads ) do not offgas hydrogen unless the polarity of the
cell is reversed. Nickel metal hydride batteries are severe offgassers. Hand
held lights that use them have vents. Nicads offgas oxygen during charging
which is reuptaken at the anode.

The big thing that you have to look at is what the light does besides light.
If you have some pee wee herman canister with cute little NmH batteries, you
have defeated the removable weight aspect of a canister light. A normal HID
with a 14 ah battery, like the Extreme Exposure ( EE ) lights that the WKPP
uses for most dives , lasts five hours with the regular sized bulb.

JJ and I use the normal light for all dives other than the ones that have
bottom times exceeding the 14 ah capacity.

By the way, I noticed a discussion on here of what HID light is best. Simple
question , "What do the pros use and why?" One answer I can give you is that
anyone with the tiniest clue would not have a non-focused or non focusable
beam. That shows somebody who does not get it in any way.




-----Original Message-----
From: fossildiver@mi*.co* [mailto:fossildiver@mi*.co*]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:11 PM
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Canister Lights / Bitz



Mike Rodriguez <mikey@ma*.co*> wrote:

>It's the other way around; most canister lights use lead-acid
>batteries, *not* NiCad.

I have seen a HID with a small 9AH canister with NiMH batteries. The reading
I've done on these batteries leads me to believe that outgassing isn't a
problem unless they are discharged far beyond the point at which the HID
light will stop working. Is there a reason I'm missing to not use these
batteries with a HID?

al
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