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Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 20:51:59 -0700
From: Paul Braunbehrens <Bakalite@ba*.co*>
Subject: RE: Drysuits and croaking toads
To: thomas@ha*.ne*, Chris Elmore <elmorec@at*.ne*>,
     junior massud , Trey ,
     techdiver@aquanaut.com
Thomas, fair enough, but if you are always using it in water colder 
than what the C4 is rated at, would you still go with C4?  Inflating 
the suit a little more when in cold water once in a while is one 
thing, but in general I like to keep the suit fairly snug.  I suppose 
I could put on some polar fleece under it.  I've noticed that being 
cold increases my gas consumption dramatically.

BTW, please don't flame.  I'm not trying to argue here, just pointing 
out that the water around here is *always* in the 40's, and wondering 
if C4 is still appropriate.


Thomas Tukker wrote:
~
>Paul,
>
>I used C4 in 35 Farenheid, nothing under it only TLS350 around it. Argon is
>the key here, a little more weight and inflate more.
>
>TT
>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: Paul Braunbehrens [mailto:Bakalite@ba*.co*]
>>  Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 9:16 PM
>>  To: Chris Elmore; junior massud; Trey; techdiver@aquanaut.com
>>  Subject: Re:Drysuits and croaking toads
>>
>>
>>  Now freaking kidding, I'm ready to dump my compressed neoprene and
>>  get a 350.  Speaking of which, I've heard there is a new product made
>>  from thinsulate and very stretchy.  Has anyone seen it or played with
>>  it?  C4 is a little too cold for 42 F water.  See, now I ask advice
>>  before I blow money.  Live and learn ;-)
>>
>>  Chris Elmore wrote:
>>  ~
>>  >Massud,
>>  >      Once upon a time a puppy found a toad and ate it. Within
>>  >minutes he was vomiting, foaming at the mouth, and otherwise not
>>  >having a good day. He eventually recovered (the toad didn't) and
>>  >went on through life without any desire to ever eat another toad.
>>  >This is a form of natural selection where one sacrificial toad
>>  >prevents the deaths of many others in his species. Sometimes the
>>  >lesson is painful, sometimes not- depends on how fast a learner you
>>  >are. In this case you may be the sacrificial toad (euphimistically
>>  >speaking). The lesson may be too late for you but others on the list
>>  >are being reinforced to carefully select equipment and follow the
>>  >recommendations of various divers who have been there, done that
>>  >(several- including Trey, with no stake in "the industry). Trey's
>>  >comments weren't for you as much as for other divers contemplating
>>  >various purchases.
>>  >      I hope you can resolve your problem but take the hit, learn
>>  >from it and move on. Most of us have been there before.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >Chris Elmore
>>  >PalmettoSoft Technologies Corp.
>>  >(803) 233-2001 (work)
>>  >(803) 348-3055 (mobile)
>>  >
>>  >----- Original Message -----
>>  >From: <mailto:avisa@bh*.co*.br*>junior massud
>>  >To: <mailto:trey@ne*.co*>Trey ;
>>  ><mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com>techdiver@aquanaut.com
>>  >Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 8:07 PM
>>  >Subject: Re:
>>  >
>>  >Thanks for nothing.......
>>  >
>>  >Trey wrote:
>>  >
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>>  >>DIV.Section1 {	page: Section1 } Let me translate this for
>>  >>you: "since you were enough of a sucker to buy a piece of shit like
>>  >>this in the first place, we are quite sure we con continue to fuck
>>  >>you ad infinitum".  Throw the thing in the trash and get a DUI.
>>  >>
>>  >>-----Original Message-----
>>  >>From: Junior Massud
>>  [<mailto:avisa@bh*.co*.br*>mailto:avisa@bhlink.com.br]
>>  >>Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 8:26 AM
>>  >>To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>>  >>Subject:
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>Can anyone help me out here? I sent an e-mail to Typhoon Drysuits
>>  >>and look what I received as an answer! Appreciate any ideas on
>>  >>changing the boots. Thanks in advance.
>>  >>
>>  >>-----Mensagem original-----
>>  >>
>>  >>De: Laura Southward
>>  >>[<mailto:laura@ty*.fs*.co*.uk*>mailto:laura@typhoon-int.
>>  fsnet.co.uk]
>>  >>
>>  >>Enviada em: ter=E7a-feira, 20 de mar=E7o de 2001 12:44
>>  >>
>>  >>Para: junior massud
>>  >>
>>  >>Assunto: Re: Neoprene lined boots
>>  >>
>>  >>Dear Antonio
>>  >>
>>  >>Thank you for your e-mail.Our Export Manager has advised us that it wi=
ll
>>  >>
>>  >>be more than the cost of a new suit if we deliver a special
>>  package of new
>>  >>
>>  >>boots.I assume that this means you would prefer to buy a new suit from
>>  >>
>>  >>your nearest Typhoon stockist!
>>  >>
>>  >>If we can be of further assistance, please contact our sales team:
>>  >>
>>  >>sales@ty*.co*.uk*
>>  >>
>>  >>Kind regards
>>  >>
>>  >>----- Original Message -----
>>  >>
>>  >>From: "junior massud" <avisa@bh*.co*.br*>
>>  >>
>>  >>To: <sales@ty*.co*.uk*>
>>  >>
>>  >>Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 12:44 AM
>>  >>
>>  >>Subject: Neoprene lined boots
>>  >>
>>  >>  >
>>  >>
>>  >>  >
>>  >>
>>  >>  > I bought a Typhoon drysuit in the US during my
>>  >>
>>  >>  > vacations an it feels very good indeed, but the
>>  >>
>>  >>  > boots are a little small, wich causes terrible
>>  >>
>>  >>  > pains on my feet. I wonder if you sell them
>>  >>
>>  >>  > separetly and, if so, what does it take for me to
>>  >>
>>  >>  > change the boots on my suit?
>>  >>
>>  >>  > My shoes number is 11(american) and 44 (brasilian)
>>  >>
>>  >>  > - I don't know my english number.
>>  >>
>>  >>  > How much would it be for a pair and to ship to
>>  >>
>>  >>  > Brazil?
>>  >>
>>  >>  > Thank you and hope to hear soon,
>>  >>
>>  >>  > Antonio Massud Junior
>>  >>
>>  >>  >
>>  >>
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