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From: "Duane Liptak Jr" <d.liptak.jr@wo*.at*.ne*>
To: <RDecker388@ao*.co*>
Cc: "Diethard (Didi) Wagner" <wae@te*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Rule of 3rd,Handsignal-Q
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:01:52 -0600


>Jan,
>
>Isn't the thumb-up/index finger extended signal typically interpreted to
mean
>to make contact with the line and exit?

    The thumb-up, index finger extended signal is generally used to indicate
DIRECTION to the exit or the ascent line.  It can be prefaced with the
question sign to make it an inquiry.  The upside down stirring sign, as
explained by Mr. Pelstring, is what is used to turn the dive when there are
no aggravating circumstances provoking the "turn".  Pointing to the SPG
clarifies the reason for the turn.  The rate of exit will be without undue
urgency with this signal.  If there is a need to exit the cave/wreck with a
degree of urgency, or at least to avoid "sightseeing" on the way out,  the
thumb gets thrown.  Throwing the thumb during exit after the dive is turned
with the upside-down stirring signal conveys a need for a more urgent exit
than what is
currently taking place, a.k.a. "You're going too damn slow."  It's all about
being clear and concise.

Dive safe,

Duane



The twirling finger seems to be
>fairly universally recognized both in cave and wreck diving situations.
>
>Bob D.
>www.SportDiverHQ.com
>
>In a message dated 3/22/01 4:09:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, Jsuw@ao*.co*
>writes:
>
>> The signal is the ascent signal (thumb up) with the index finger
extended,
>as
>>
>>  if to point to the cave entrance, or ascent line on a wreck.  The
thought
>> was
>>  that this was a universal signal, with meaning for both cave and wreck
>>  diving.  Both indicate a normal ascent procedure, with a return to the
>>  support available on an open water ascent line, or an unhurried exit
from
>a
>>  cave.
>
>
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