Capt  JT:  I  wouldnt  be  so sure "most of the divers inhere are
inexperienced".  If  I  were  you,  I  wouldnt  underestimate the
knowledge  and  experience of people who you do not know. You are
not coherent in your arguments: in earlier posts, you argued that
people   who   didnt   know   you  couldnt  know  your  level  of
knowledge/diving.  However,  you, now, underestimate other people
you do not know.

As  far  as  I  see  it,  there  is a huge difference between the
DIR/WKPP/GUE  groups  and others (you or anyone else): these guys
are  DEVELOPING a NEW FRAMEWORK for diving, not just doing dives.
They  do  experiments,  take  samples,  have scientists, lawyers,
medical doctors, geologists, et al. and they attempt to summarize
and  make up a theoretical-empirical diving system.

Developing  new  frameworks imply great efforts and sacrifices of
every  nature and these guys should be assisted in their efforts.

All  in  all Capt., these guys go well beyond little tiny selfish
activities trying to make things better.

cheers,


aldo.solari@ho*.se*
www.ccbb.ulpgc.es/fish-ecology/solaris
___

captjt@mi*.co*

CJ> Hi Manos

CJ> To  try  and make it clear to you, most of the divers who use
CJ> this  list as a guide are inexperienced, those that really do
CJ> dives  will  not engage in this list because they must put up
CJ> with  lies  and  badgering  from certain people and a cast of
CJ> wantabees.  To date there are 2 groups that have been willing
CJ> to  post  detailed dive reports to help inform divers on this
CJ> list  who  is  really are doing it and how it is really done.
CJ> Those 2 groups are AUE and our group here VBtech, both groups
CJ> have  embraced  many  of  the  DIR ways, but have not limited
CJ> themselves  to the exact teachings, because in the real world
CJ> it just does not work that way. There are no other groups who
CJ> conduct  the  high number of deep technical wreck/ocean dives
CJ> that  these  2  do  and  do  reports  on them. I have on many
CJ> occasions  detailed  things done wrong or mishaps that I have
CJ> survived,  I am still here walking and diving. You can either
CJ> call  it a CF like some do or learn from it I don't care, I'm
CJ> the  only one willing to tell the truth. I have no friends so
CJ> close  that  I  will  lie  for  them when it comes to gear or
CJ> safety.  I  cannot  help it is just me. Even in light of some
CJ> private emails that I have pulled lines from to show you what
CJ> I  have  to  deal  with  and  removed the names below. I have
CJ> hundreds  of such emails that show the real truth behind most
CJ> post  to  make  people look bad, I will continue to speak the
CJ> truth.

CJ> >You  can fuck with xxxxx all you want, he is an acquaintance
CJ> as  is  xxxxxx.  xx  and  some  of the others are off limits,
CJ> unless  you  want  to  be publicly raked over the coals every
CJ> time you talk.

CJ> >And,  if  JT keeps doing stupid things and gets wacked, then
CJ> it  reflects  on  all  of  us  who are trying to DIR, and the
CJ> idiots  will  be  all fucking over it. Then I have to make up
CJ> some shit about JT being retarded.

CJ> Manos do not be so naive....

CJ> JT


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