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From: "Todd Sieber" <todd@un*.co*>
To: "Adam" <deepwrecks@ya*.co*>, "William Anzueto" <willanz@ms*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: WARNING - Coffee Alert
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:05:46 -0800
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Adam,

If your not against PADI for making money - they why waste your time - =
PADI is part of the RSTC which includes IDEA, PADI, PDIC, SSI and YMCA - =
those organizations together determine the minimum standards not just =
PADI.

I agree that the standards for an instructor are low and I'd like to see =
them raise too, but again the final outcome is really how the instructor =
approaches the students and if they really care about them.

And from a business stand what is wrong with getting people interested =
in doing more diving (continuing education or Basket weaving as you =
suggest)?

For once if all the "I'm better than PADI" crowd was to get together and =
create their own organization I'd give you a year before you all are =
running away with your heads up your asses.

If you think you can do something about it - then show us.

I'm just wondering - do you teach?  I'd love to sit in your class....

Todd
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Adam=20
  To: William Anzueto=20
  Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 8:51 AM
  Subject: Re: WARNING - Coffee Alert


  When PADI started they where non profit organization. I am not against =
PADI making money. I stand against PADI's bullshit to lower the =
standards to produce instructors and sell impressive but worthless =
titles. They are certifying instructors regardless of their skills and =
teaching ability to gain market share.  Because PADI believes more =
instructors produce more divers. More divers mean more money. Do you =
know instructor candidates will be marked down if they fail to promote =
up coming classes. (Basket weaving or perhaps Pumpkin Carving Specialty =
any one) As I said again and again there are great instructors out =
there. The ultimate insult to all good instructors regardless of agency =
who worked hard and care about quality, safety of their students is to =
be put in to the same class as these morons. Because they happened to =
share the same Master Instructor Trainer title. Difference is one earned =
the title and the other bought it. ;-)=20

  Cheers

  Adam  =20

  William Anzueto <willanz@ms*.co*> wrote:=20
  Adam,

  Interesting that you should post this....
  I wonder what kind of business you are in...do they make money by =
providing a service or material? That's what makes the world go round. =
So yes PADI is in for making money...and now the rest of the agencies =
are cachting up.

  My training:
  PADI Instructor.
  GUE Cave 1 and doing Cave 2 next month.
  My opinion on PADI....agency just makes the outline....the instructor =
makes a big difference.
  I train my courses since GUE Cave 1 very differently.
  Dive soon,
  William
  "Cave Country , FL"






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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If your not against PADI for making =
money - they=20
why waste your time - PADI is part of the RSTC which includes IDEA, =
PADI, PDIC,=20
SSI and YMCA - those organizations together determine the minimum =
standards not=20
just PADI.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree that the standards for an =
instructor are=20
low and I'd like to see them raise too, but again the final outcome is =
really=20
how the instructor approaches the students and if they really care about =

them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And from a business stand what is wrong =
with=20
getting people interested in doing more diving (continuing education or =
Basket=20
weaving as you suggest)?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For once if all the "I'm better than =
PADI" crowd=20
was to get together and create their own organization I'd give you a =
year before=20
you all are running away with your heads up your asses.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you think you can do something about =
it - then=20
show us.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm just wondering - do you =
teach?  I'd love=20
to sit in your class....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Todd</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:deepwrecks@ya*.co*" =
title=3Ddeepwrecks@ya*.co*>Adam</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
href=3D"mailto:willanz@ms*.co*"=20
  title=3Dwillanz@ms*.co*>William Anzueto</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"=20
  title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com>techdiver@aquanaut.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 14,
2001 =
8:51=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: WARNING - Coffee
=
Alert</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <P><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">When PADI started they =
where non=20
  profit organization. I am not against PADI making money. I stand =
against=20
  PADI’s bullshit to lower the standards to produce instructors =
and sell=20
  impressive but worthless titles. They are certifying instructors =
regardless of=20
  their skills and teaching ability to gain market share.<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>Because PADI believes more =
instructors=20
  produce more divers. More divers mean more money. Do you know =
instructor=20
  candidates will be marked down if they fail to promote up coming =
classes.=20
  (Basket weaving or perhaps Pumpkin Carving Specialty any one) As I =
said again=20
  and again there are great instructors out there. The ultimate insult =
to all=20
  good instructors regardless of agency who worked hard and care about =
quality,=20
  safety of their students is to be put in to the same class as these =
morons.=20
  Because they happened to share the same Master Instructor Trainer =
title.=20
  Difference is one earned the title and the other bought it. =
;-)<?xml:namespace=20
  prefix =3D o ns =3D "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" =
/><o:p></o:p></SPAN>=20

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  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: =
Arial">Cheers<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Adam<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">  
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P><B><I>William Anzueto <willanz@ms*.co*></I></B>
wrote:=20
  <BR>Adam,<BR><BR>Interesting that you should post this....<BR>I
wonder =
what=20
  kind of business you are in...do they make money by providing a =
service or=20
  material? That's what makes the world go round. So yes PADI is in for =
making=20
  money...and now the rest of the agencies are cachting up.<BR><BR>My=20
  training:<BR>PADI Instructor.<BR>GUE Cave 1 and doing Cave 2 next =
month.<BR>My=20
  opinion on PADI....agency just makes the outline....the instructor =
makes a big=20
  difference.<BR>I train my courses since GUE Cave 1 very =
differently.<BR>Dive=20
  soon,<BR>William<BR>"Cave Country , FL"<BR></P>
  <P><BR>
  <HR SIZE=3D1>
  <B>Do You Yahoo!?</B><BR><A
href=3D"http://auctions.yahoo.com">Yahoo!=20
  Auctions</A> - Buy the things you want at great=20
prices!</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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