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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:21:45 -0500
From: Richie <cheers2@op*.ne*>
Subject: re: Coffee alert
To: Paul Braunbehrens <Bakalite@ba*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
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Gentlemen, 
I have read in awe your comments regarding Padi. Well Padi is an organization
that sets guidelines for scuba instruction. It issues cards to divers based on
the comments of the instructors., who became instructors based on another's
comments. There are how many instructors? You men seem to know first hand of
people being given cards without being able to perform the skills. Did you
bother to send a complaint to Padi that it happened, preferably with the
instructors name. I would guess not. It is always easier to throw rocks. 
Padi sets the parameters for the diver education, based on what they feel is
the best for the general public. Not the obese or out of shape , nor the
triathlon contestants, the general public. Most are happy in the top 100 foot
of the water column, most even shallower. 
     I personally have seen a dozen students fail to get their open water
certification on the first dives. I have seen students told to go practice
swimming until you can meet the basic requirements. I have overheard fathers
try to get cards for their children by offering contributions to the
instructor. And these  fathers were divers. The point is, the instructor FAILED
them, did not certify them. A Padi instructor fancy that. The difference
between you and me,  I wrote a letter of commendation to Padi about the
instructor. 
    Padi does not have a police force. They will however respond to complaints.
So will the other certifying agencies. It is up to us the diving public to
police our own.
     In his own way, Trey is part of the police force. He is constantly
pointing out the flaws and errors in the current education process. Ten years
ago, he was probably stroke diving himself.  He progressed from there.  Does he
let garbage go unchallenged on the forum. No he, tells it like it is. You may
not appreciate his gruff delivery, but you had best respect his knowledge and
experience.   
    My certification was with dual hoses, horseshoe collars and J valves.  The
criteria was if you have the nerve to do it, you are in. I recently had my two
boys go thru the certification process. I used Padi and the aforementioned
instructor. I have always felt, it is my life I am talking about. If I take a
short cut in learning this or setting this up, who will help me at 200 feet
under? It tends to make you hone your skills. That is unless you have a death
wish. 
    Quite frankly, you and I and all the divers,  owe it to the neophyte divers
to complaint to Padi or any other agency about abuses., backed up with facts.
Not hearsay or there say...facts. Until the diving public adopts that attitude,
we will have abuses, but they will be our fault.We will have deaths and even
those will be partially our fault. Silence can be deadly. Facts make change,
not excess verbiage. 
I have written more than I intended, to all, I enjoy the commentaries, even
when I don't agree with them. To Al Marve, nice meeting you.
To the rest of the group, thanks for the info, you may have saved my life.

Richie

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<DIV>Gentlemen, </DIV>
<DIV>I have read in awe your comments regarding Padi. Well Padi is an 
organization that sets guidelines for scuba instruction. It issues cards to 
divers based on the comments of the instructors., who became instructors based 
on another's comments. There are how many instructors? You men seem to know 
first hand of people being given cards without being able to perform the
skills. 
Did you bother to send a complaint to Padi that it happened, preferably with
the 
instructors name. I would guess not. It is always easier to throw rocks. 
</DIV>
<DIV>Padi sets the parameters for the diver education, based on what they
feel 
is the best for the general public. Not the obese or out of shape , nor the 
triathlon contestants, the general public. Most are happy in the top 100 foot
of 
the water column, most even shallower. </DIV>
<DIV>     I personally have seen a dozen students fail
to 
get their open water certification on the first dives. I have seen students
told 
to go practice swimming until you can meet the basic requirements. I have 
overheard fathers try to get cards for their children by offering contributions 
to the instructor. And these  fathers were divers. The point is, the instructor 
FAILED them, did not certify them. A Padi instructor fancy that. The difference 
between you and me,  I wrote a letter of commendation to Padi about the 
instructor. </DIV>
<DIV>    Padi does not have a police force. They will however 
respond to complaints. So will the other certifying agencies. It is up to us
the 
diving public to police our own.</DIV>
<DIV>     In his own way, Trey is part of the police
force. 
He is constantly pointing out the flaws and errors in the current education 
process. Ten years ago, he was probably stroke diving himself.  He 
progressed from there.  Does he let garbage go unchallenged on the forum. 
No he, tells it like it is. You may not appreciate his
gruff delivery, 
but you had best respect his knowledge and experience.   </DIV>
<DIV>    My certification was with dual hoses, horseshoe
collars 
and J valves.  The criteria was if you have the nerve to do it, you are
in. 
I recently had my two boys go thru the certification process. I used Padi and 
the aforementioned instructor. I have always felt, it is my life I am talking 
about. If I take a short cut in learning this or setting this up, who will 
help me at 200 feet under? It tends to make you hone your skills. That is
unless 
you have a death wish. </DIV>
<DIV>    Quite frankly, you and I and all the divers, 
owe 
it to the neophyte divers to complaint to Padi or any other agency about 
abuses., backed up with facts. Not hearsay or there say...facts. Until the 
diving public adopts that attitude, we will have abuses, but they will be our 
fault.We will have deaths and even those will be partially our fault. 
Silence can be deadly. Facts make change, not excess verbiage.
</DIV>
<DIV>I have written more than I intended, to all, I enjoy the commentaries,
even 
when I don't agree with them. To Al Marve, nice meeting you.</DIV>
<DIV>To the rest of the group, thanks for the info, you may have saved my 
life.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Richie</DIV></BODY></HTML>

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