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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:50:17 -0500
From: Marv <ajmarve@ba*.ne*>
To: Max <max@xd*.co*>
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Al vs Steel issue ...
reading is fundamental.

buh bye

Marv

Max wrote:

> 50F Marv thats pussy bath water try 0c. Thats P U S S Y Marv. Salt water can
> drop below that and still not freeze.
> 
> Max
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marv" <ajmarve@ba*.ne*>
> To: "Max" <max@xd*.co*>
> Cc: "Aldo P. Solari [APS]" <aldo.solari@ho*.se*>;
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 10:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Al vs Steel issue ...
> 
> 
>> Max,
>> 
>> would like to know what you consider cold, living in FLA < florida?>. My
>> guess is you never dive anything below 50 degree water. I dive up off
>> ny/nj on a regular basis, i am diving tls350, al80 dubs, 12 lb belt, aul
>> 14 and c4 uwear. it is not only possible, it is awesome. I have dove in
>> Feb in a wet suit up here, i know cold water.
>> 
>> G has mentioned in prior posts he has dove dub 80s w/ dry suit year
>> round in florida water, as he is accustomed to the thermoclines in
>> 200-250 range being in the 20s year round i believe.
>> 
>> oh and btw, the word is steel, not steal.
>> 
>> Marv
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Max wrote:
>> 
>>> I want to put some words in GIs mouth. When he says Al 80s for ocean
>> 
> diving
> 
>>> he is switching to a wet suit in 80F FLA water. I am sure the water
>> 
> temps
> 
>>> very in Se like in Ca and you would need to stack 30Lbs of weight on
>> 
> with
> 
>>> the big underwear and pump a lot of air into the suit. This also goes
>> 
> for
> 
>>> fresh water as well. So i have switched to steal 95 and 104s just like
>> 
> the
> 
>>> cave rig. I believe switching back and forth between rigs is in fact
>> 
> counter
> 
>>> DIR and unless you did it often it's like learning to dive a new rig all
>>> over again. Most of the guys yapping on here have never really
>> 
> experienced
> 
>>> cold water diving. Dual 80s do not cut it unless you are play diving. If
>> 
> you
> 
>>> are diving FLA waters in the 140 Ft zone it could be said that hauling
>> 
> Steal
> 
>>> 104s are over kill and maybe dual Al 80 are fine, This is where my
>>> experience runs out. But in cold clear water fresh or ocean deep tech
>> 
> diving
> 
>>> use Steal cave tanks.
>>> 
>>> Max
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Aldo P. Solari [APS]" <aldo.solari@ho*.se*>
>>> To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:49 PM
>>> Subject: the Al vs Steel issue ...
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I will not argue with George Irvine who happens to know what
>>>> he   is   talking   about.   However,   in  Europe,  we  get
>>>> contradictory  information  on the tanks issue (Al vs steel,
>>>> etc.):
>>>> 
>>>> (1).  It  is  considered that steel tanks (chrome-molybdenum
>>>> steel) are safer, last longer and require less weights;
>>>> 
>>>> (2).  Aluminum  tanks are not widely available in Europe ...
>>>> they  never  hit this market and, as far as I know, they are
>>>> not produced in the union, are they ?
>>>> 
>>>> If  they  really weigh 1/5th of a steel tank and cost 1/3rd,
>>>> being  EQUALLY  safe  (are they ?) I would certainly welcome
>>>> them ...
>>>> 
>>>> But,  again,  if  they  are so much better for ocean diving,
>>>> light  and  much  cheaper:  why didnt they ever hit the euro
>>>> market ? Could any one explain this ?
>>>> 
>>>> Or ... are we being fooled by the "market-forces" in Europe,
>>>> too  ?  As far as I know (hehe, no flame intended), we still
>>>> have a less of a circus in the euro market ... dont we ?
>>>> 
>>>> cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> aldo.solari@ho*.se*
>>>> www.ccbb.ulpgc.es/fish-ecology/solaris
>>>> ___
>>>> 
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