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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:26:38 -0500
From: Marv <ajmarve@ba*.ne*>
To: Max <max@xd*.co*>
CC: "Aldo P. Solari [APS]" <aldo.solari@ho*.se*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Al vs Steel issue ...
Max,

would like to know what you consider cold, living in FLA < florida?>. My 
guess is you never dive anything below 50 degree water. I dive up off 
ny/nj on a regular basis, i am diving tls350, al80 dubs, 12 lb belt, aul 
14 and c4 uwear. it is not only possible, it is awesome. I have dove in 
Feb in a wet suit up here, i know cold water. 

G has mentioned in prior posts he has dove dub 80s w/ dry suit year 
round in florida water, as he is accustomed to the thermoclines in 
200-250 range being in the 20s year round i believe.

oh and btw, the word is steel, not steal.

Marv



Max wrote:

> I want to put some words in GIs mouth. When he says Al 80s for ocean diving
> he is switching to a wet suit in 80F FLA water. I am sure the water temps
> very in Se like in Ca and you would need to stack 30Lbs of weight on with
> the big underwear and pump a lot of air into the suit. This also goes for
> fresh water as well. So i have switched to steal 95 and 104s just like the
> cave rig. I believe switching back and forth between rigs is in fact counter
> DIR and unless you did it often it's like learning to dive a new rig all
> over again. Most of the guys yapping on here have never really experienced
> cold water diving. Dual 80s do not cut it unless you are play diving. If you
> are diving FLA waters in the 140 Ft zone it could be said that hauling Steal
> 104s are over kill and maybe dual Al 80 are fine, This is where my
> experience runs out. But in cold clear water fresh or ocean deep tech diving
> use Steal cave tanks.
> 
> Max
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aldo P. Solari [APS]" <aldo.solari@ho*.se*>
> To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:49 PM
> Subject: the Al vs Steel issue ...
> 
> 
>> I will not argue with George Irvine who happens to know what
>> he   is   talking   about.   However,   in  Europe,  we  get
>> contradictory  information  on the tanks issue (Al vs steel,
>> etc.):
>> 
>> (1).  It  is  considered that steel tanks (chrome-molybdenum
>> steel) are safer, last longer and require less weights;
>> 
>> (2).  Aluminum  tanks are not widely available in Europe ...
>> they  never  hit this market and, as far as I know, they are
>> not produced in the union, are they ?
>> 
>> If  they  really weigh 1/5th of a steel tank and cost 1/3rd,
>> being  EQUALLY  safe  (are they ?) I would certainly welcome
>> them ...
>> 
>> But,  again,  if  they  are so much better for ocean diving,
>> light  and  much  cheaper:  why didnt they ever hit the euro
>> market ? Could any one explain this ?
>> 
>> Or ... are we being fooled by the "market-forces" in Europe,
>> too  ?  As far as I know (hehe, no flame intended), we still
>> have a less of a circus in the euro market ... dont we ?
>> 
>> cheers,
>> 
>> aldo.solari@ho*.se*
>> www.ccbb.ulpgc.es/fish-ecology/solaris
>> ___
>> 
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