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50F Marv thats pussy bath water try 0c. Thats P U S S Y Marv. Salt water can drop below that and still not freeze. Max ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marv" <ajmarve@ba*.ne*> To: "Max" <max@xd*.co*> Cc: "Aldo P. Solari [APS]" <aldo.solari@ho*.se*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 10:26 PM Subject: Re: Al vs Steel issue ... > Max, > > would like to know what you consider cold, living in FLA < florida?>. My > guess is you never dive anything below 50 degree water. I dive up off > ny/nj on a regular basis, i am diving tls350, al80 dubs, 12 lb belt, aul > 14 and c4 uwear. it is not only possible, it is awesome. I have dove in > Feb in a wet suit up here, i know cold water. > > G has mentioned in prior posts he has dove dub 80s w/ dry suit year > round in florida water, as he is accustomed to the thermoclines in > 200-250 range being in the 20s year round i believe. > > oh and btw, the word is steel, not steal. > > Marv > > > > Max wrote: > > > I want to put some words in GIs mouth. When he says Al 80s for ocean diving > > he is switching to a wet suit in 80F FLA water. I am sure the water temps > > very in Se like in Ca and you would need to stack 30Lbs of weight on with > > the big underwear and pump a lot of air into the suit. This also goes for > > fresh water as well. So i have switched to steal 95 and 104s just like the > > cave rig. I believe switching back and forth between rigs is in fact counter > > DIR and unless you did it often it's like learning to dive a new rig all > > over again. Most of the guys yapping on here have never really experienced > > cold water diving. Dual 80s do not cut it unless you are play diving. If you > > are diving FLA waters in the 140 Ft zone it could be said that hauling Steal > > 104s are over kill and maybe dual Al 80 are fine, This is where my > > experience runs out. But in cold clear water fresh or ocean deep tech diving > > use Steal cave tanks. > > > > Max > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Aldo P. Solari [APS]" <aldo.solari@ho*.se*> > > To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:49 PM > > Subject: the Al vs Steel issue ... > > > > > >> I will not argue with George Irvine who happens to know what > >> he is talking about. However, in Europe, we get > >> contradictory information on the tanks issue (Al vs steel, > >> etc.): > >> > >> (1). It is considered that steel tanks (chrome-molybdenum > >> steel) are safer, last longer and require less weights; > >> > >> (2). Aluminum tanks are not widely available in Europe ... > >> they never hit this market and, as far as I know, they are > >> not produced in the union, are they ? > >> > >> If they really weigh 1/5th of a steel tank and cost 1/3rd, > >> being EQUALLY safe (are they ?) I would certainly welcome > >> them ... > >> > >> But, again, if they are so much better for ocean diving, > >> light and much cheaper: why didnt they ever hit the euro > >> market ? Could any one explain this ? > >> > >> Or ... are we being fooled by the "market-forces" in Europe, > >> too ? As far as I know (hehe, no flame intended), we still > >> have a less of a circus in the euro market ... dont we ? > >> > >> cheers, > >> > >> aldo.solari@ho*.se* > >> www.ccbb.ulpgc.es/fish-ecology/solaris > >> ___ > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >> > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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