So what's the problem paul, you only need to replace your tanks and your 
fins.  you did way better than I did, I had to replace everything.

Dry gloves are OK as long as the wrist seal is intact.

Drysuit is fine.  it's compressed.  Actually a nice suit if you ask me.

You won't need the weights with proper tanks.


At 11:23 AM 2/20/2001 -0800, Paul Braunbehrens wrote:
>Chris, I've had the twin jets since before I was exposed to DIR.  I also 
>have a neoprene drysuit, a set of HP doubles, and an atomic 
>regulator.  Sorry, I just don't have $2k sitting around right now to 
>change all my gear.  I'm trying to figure out what I can use in the tech 1 
>class, and what I need to change.  In the real world you need to make some 
>compromises.  It's either do the class with most of the gear I have now, 
>or wait until I have the money to switch all my gear around, and that 
>could be a while.  So I"m trying to figure out what will "work", and what 
>I absolutely have to replace now.  I just priced the jet fins, they are a 
>minor expense, I'll be getting them shortly.
>
>Thanks for your offer to let me borrow your stuff, BTW, but I've long 
>since learned that you need to train using your own gear, if the training 
>is to be worth anything.
>
>Just for kicks, here is a list of what I'm using, as you can see I've 
>already blown a lot of money...
>
>PST HP 100 doubles with isolator manifold
>G250/M20 on a necklace, and Atomic on a 7 ft hose.
>brass spg.
>10 W HID
>Halcyon integrated weights
>OMS SS backplate
>Harness (webbing from EE, the other stuff I had laying around)
>2 EE backup lights
>Diving Concepts compressed neoprene drysuit
>Halcyon 65 lb wing (I have some bondage wings sitting in my garage in case 
>anyone wants them)
>Twin jet fins with spring straps (soon to be Jet fins)
>Halcyon lift bag
>Halcyon Sausage
>Dry gloves with ring system (this was a poor choice, but I'm stuck with it 
>for now).
>
>So here is the question really.  I just don't have the bucks to change the 
>drysuit and the tanks right now, and I'm sure those two are the worst 
>offenders.  Should I postpone the class until I've changed those, or 
>should I take the class now?
>
>Please advise.
>
>
>
>
>Chris Elmore wrote:
>~
>>Paul,
>>      George was right, "What are we going to do with you?" I've been diving
>>since '68 and a pressure gauge is the only thing that made it past the DIR
>>purge. To clarify: DIR stands for Doing It Right. It doesn't mean Doing It
>>Half-assed Until Later. You keep asking questions, getting good answers then
>>buying crap anyway. Sign up for a GUE course and I'll let you borrow all my
>>stuff for the week. Geez, put the coffee on.
>>C.
>>
>>Chris Elmore
>>PalmettoSoft Technologies Corp.
>>(803) 233-2001 (work)
>>(803) 348-3055 (mobile)
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Paul Braunbehrens <Bakalite@ba*.co*>
>>To: <thomas@ha*.ne*>; Steve Schultz <se2schul@bl*.ma*.uw*.ca*>;
>>Stefan Bolka <sbolka@er*.co*>
>>Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; GUE Mailing List <quest@gu*.co*>
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 11:59 AM
>>Subject: RE: Fins question
>>
>>
>>>  Because I've been diving for a couple of decades, and happen to have
>>>  some equipment that I purchased before I was exposed to DIR.
>>>
>>>  DUH!
>>>
>>>  Thomas Tukker wrote:
>>>  ~
>>>  >Hmmm, never seen any of those in Wakulla...
>>>  >Guess you're in for another purchase.
>>>  >
>>>  >Why not buy what you see all DIR divers wear in the first place, that
>>might
>>>  >be a money saving strategy if you have a limited budget to work with
>>Paul.
>>>  >
>>>  >TT
>>>  >
>>>  >>  -----Original Message-----
>>>  >>  From: Paul Braunbehrens [mailto:Bakalite@ba*.co*]
>>>  >>  Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 2:07 AM
>>>  >>  To: Steve Schultz; Stefan Bolka
>>>  >>  Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com; GUE Mailing List
>>>  >>  Subject: Re: Fins question
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
>>>  >>  Steve, that's not my experience.  I was also wondering if the twin
>>>  >>  jets are DIR, 'cause when I got a dry suit and had to get larger fins
>>>  >>  I did get the twin jets.  As far as how well they work, they work
>>>  >>  very well.  No cramps, and you will move faster.  They don't "feel"
>>>  >>  like you're doing much work, i.e. there isn't much resistance to work
>>>  >>  against, but if you compare against known variables you'll see that
>>>  >>  your speed under water has improved.
>>>  >>
>>>  >>  I sure hope they're ok, 'cause I'm already going to blow a lot of
>>  > >>  money on other stuff including the tech1 class, and don't want to
>>>  >>  have to buy fins as well.
>>>  >>
>>>  >>  Cheers.
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
>>>  >>  Steve Schultz wrote:
>>>  >>  ~
>>>  >>  >Stefan,
>>>  >>  >
>>>  >>  >Data can be manipulated statistically to serve whoever is publishing
>>the
>>>  >>  >info.
>>>  >>  >
>>>  >>  >When you read info about fin efficiency, see who is publishing the
>>data,
>>>  >>  >and ask yourself if they have something to gain.
>>>  >>  >
>>>  >>  >More importantly, try it yourself in the water.
>>>  >>  >
>>>  >>  >I tried the bio-fin a couple years ago when appollo sponsored an
>>>  >>  >expedition.  I found the fins sucked.  I mean really sucked.  I dive
>>Jets
>>>  >>  >and only Jets now. Give me 10 pairs of bio-fins for free, and I'll
>>still
>>>  >>  >be diving my Jets.
>>>  >>  >
>>>  >>  >Whoever said bio-fins are more efficient probably didn't have calf
>>>  >>  >muscles, or they sell them.
>>>  >>  >
>>>  >>  >BTW, the best DIR equipment list so far is on the WKPP website.
>>George
>>>  >>  >posted his configuration.
>>>  >>  >
>>>  >>  >ss
>>>  >>  >
>>>  >>  >On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Stefan Bolka wrote:
>>>  >>  >
>>>  >>  >>  Ok this is probably gonna get me hurt but...
>>>  >>  >>
>>>  >>  >>  Has anyone thought about the natures wing, i.e. scubapro twin jet
>>>  >>  >>fins or Apollo bio fin for DIR.  I ask because I recognize that
>>>  >>  >>many of us (like me) do not have scooters and the test numbers
>>>  >>  >>showing better efficiency sound encouraging.  Do these work for
>>>  >>  >>frog kicks?  Could they be used for tech. and not cave or cavern?
>>>  >>  >>
>>>  >>  >>  I am asking because I am trying to start making a "DIR approved
>>>  >>  >>equipment list".  yes I have too much time on my hands and figured
>>>  >>  >>it makes sense to try and help new divers get into DIR
>>>  >>  >>methodologies so I am working on a FAQ.
>>>  >>  >>
>>>  >>  >>  If anyone has start a FAQ and not finished let me know, I'll
>>>  >>  help finish it.
>>>  >>  >>
>>>  >>  >>  Thanks for the help,
>>>  >>  >>  Stefan.
>>>  >>  >>
>>>  >>  >
>>>  >>  >
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