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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:32:12 -0500
To: "Manos Manoli" <cytech@ma*.co*.cy*>, CAPTZEROOO@ao*.co*,
     Tech Diver
From: Joel Silverstein <JoelSilverstein@sn*.ne*>
Subject: Re: Magazine Strokes
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Luck is when opportunity meets with preparation.

Despite what some may think they can predict the simple fact exists that 
one can't predict all the possible reasons something can go wrong.
We can base the expectation or prediction on prior experience, but that is 
all.  The only practice for diving is diving.
A one year wonder with 30 training dives in one set of gear in 4 different 
environments will not prepare someone for the harsh realities of
being out in the open ocean. While you may not agree with Capt. Terzuoli's 
approach to wreck diving, never the less it is "his" approach
used and proven with thousands of dives in an environment as harsh as you 
may ever encounter.  It is specific, it is practiced, it is his system, it 
works.
This guy is no boat monkey dope, he is well  experienced, well educated, 
runs a huge business, and for passion and excitement runs a dive boat.  I 
trust that should he make the decisions to dive in a different environment, 
he would heed the cautionary advice, and take tutelage from someone who is 
open minded enough to share the appropriate "tips" to make that experience 
a positive one.  But don't discount out the wealth of knowledge that some 
people store in their knapsack and have the ability to pull out as they 
need it based on actual experience.  It's easy to point a finger at the 
guys who have been at this a long time. They have made commitments to 
themselves and to their sport to stay with it. 5, 10, 15, 20 years or more 
for many.  Look for more of what you can learn than what you can't

Regards,

Joel Silverstein
http://www.nitroxdiver.com




At 09:06 AM 2/19/2001 +0200, Manos Manoli wrote:
>You are increasing the possibilities of  getting in a life threat situation.
>Thats  why , you may have 10000 dives but  they will be 10000 " you were
>lucky"  dives.
>You may think it works until you find out that it wasn't.
>
>You are looking at the wrong direction which is " what if ..."     the right
>direction
>is " what if and at the same time ......"
>
>A simple question is  what will you do if you loose the line and the captain
>never spot
>you.  Don't tell me that this will never happen !!! So you lost  you O2,
>that means approximately that if you have 15m of deco on
>O2 it will become at least 40m on bottom mix add,  a strong surface 
>current and
>you
>  end up  surfacing in Egypt.
>
>I can come up with 20 more scenarios when i read your diving style.
>
>The Cave Guys are " lucky " they  have less unpredictable exposures  , no
>anchor lines to break
>, no  currents .
>
>Manos.
>
>
>CAPTZEROOO@ao*.co* wrote:
>
> > What is so funny ?? Just becuse I dare to dive differently than you ?? This
> > system works for me in my ocean, in my neck of the woods. Would it work for
> > cave diving?? I think NOT but I only dive here, on wrecks.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Captain zero
>
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<font size=3>Luck is when opportunity meets with preparation. <br>
<br>
Despite what some may think they can predict the simple fact exists that
one can't predict all the possible reasons something can go wrong. <br>
We can base the expectation or prediction on prior experience, but that
is all.  The only practice for diving is diving. <br>
A one year wonder with 30 training dives in one set of gear in 4
different environments will not prepare someone for the harsh realities
of <br>
being out in the open ocean. While you may not agree with Capt.
Terzuoli's approach to wreck diving, never the less it is "his"
approach<br>
used and proven with thousands of dives in an environment as harsh as you
may ever encounter.  It is specific, it is practiced, it is his
system, it works. <br>
This guy is no boat monkey dope, he is well  experienced, well
educated, runs a huge business, and for passion and excitement runs a
dive boat.  I trust that should he make the decisions to dive in a
different environment, he would heed the cautionary advice, and take
tutelage from someone who is open minded enough to share the appropriate
"tips" to make that experience a positive one.  But don't
discount out the wealth of knowledge that some people store in their
knapsack and have the ability to pull out as they need it based on actual
experience.  It's easy to point a finger at the guys who have been
at this a long time. They have made commitments to themselves and to
their sport to stay with it. 5, 10, 15, 20 years or more for many. 
Look for more of what you can learn than what you can't <br>
<br>
Regards, <br>
<br>
Joel Silverstein<br>
<a href="http://www.nitroxdiver.com/"
eudora="autourl">http://www.nitroxdiver.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
At 09:06 AM 2/19/2001 +0200, Manos Manoli wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>You are increasing the
possibilities of  getting in a life threat situation.<br>
Thats  why , you may have 10000 dives but  they will be 10000
" you were<br>
lucky"  dives.<br>
You may think it works until you find out that it wasn't.<br>
<br>
You are looking at the wrong direction which is " what if
...."     the right<br>
direction<br>
is " what if and at the same time ......"<br>
<br>
A simple question is  what will you do if you loose the line and the
captain<br>
never spot<br>
you.  Don't tell me that this will never happen !!! So you
lost  you O2,<br>
that means approximately that if you have 15m of deco on<br>
O2 it will become at least 40m on bottom mix add,  a strong surface
current and<br>
you<br>
 end up  surfacing in Egypt.<br>
<br>
I can come up with 20 more scenarios when i read your diving style.<br>
<br>
The Cave Guys are " lucky " they  have less unpredictable
exposures  , no<br>
anchor lines to break<br>
, no  currents .<br>
<br>
Manos.<br>
<br>
<br>
CAPTZEROOO@ao*.co* wrote:<br>
<br>
> What is so funny ?? Just becuse I dare to dive differently than you
?? This<br>
> system works for me in my ocean, in my neck of the woods. Would it
work for<br>
> cave diving?? I think NOT but I only dive here, on wrecks.<br>
><br>
> Thanks<br>
> Captain zero<br>
<br>
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