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At 05:05 23/11/00 , Fabricio Rosas Tariki wrote: >Billy, > >| Hold on Adriana. The dead guy's intro to cave instructor is Afonso >Pinheiro Jr. >| right? The same IANTD bright spark who wrote about DEEP AIR DIVING.... > >No, it was Gilberto Menezes, also a Brazilian cave diving (but not an >instructor of any kind), describing what he USED to do back in 1995~96. You >had read it all (and the name of the author), it describes how he almost >died on a subsequent dive. > That scared me more about deep air diving than >anything to the date (for those of you interested, you can find this article >on the IANTD page). Now, he dives on caves to the 250m range on helium. >Besides, he keeps his dives in secrecy to most of the divers, as he doesn't >want to promote it, because he thinks it is too dangerous. Figures... > >I did my intro to cave, with Gustavo as my buddy, and technical courses with >Afonso and he pointed, very bluntly, to all of us how stupid and suicidal is >diving deep on air, specially in caves. He told us the story of one of his >best friends that DIED on a cave, while doing a solo exploration dive on air >to 45m. > >You live in Australia, a very nice country, but half-way around the world >from Brasil. Who do you think you are to judge and condemn people that you >had NEVER meet, know or talked to? Thanks for the info that Pinheiro didn't write that deep air stupidity story on the IANTD page. However, before you decide that leaves Pinheiro in the clear, let's cut to the chase. It was Pinheiro who repeatedly equated "deep" with 'balls" on the techdiver list. Not Gilberto, not anyone else, only Pinheiro. These are direct cuts from his emails: | | > "you don't have balls to do these dives." | | and | | > "Did you dive below 600' in a real exploration ??? off course not, you | > don't have balls to this !!!" | THAT'S the attitude that sucks. THAT's the attitude that poisons students. THAT's the attitude that keeps the 'deep for deep's sake' artists doing the stupid stuff. Or are you now going to tell me that was good instructor attitude? rgrds billyw -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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