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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Art Connection=20
To: techdiver-request@aquanaut.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 1:25 PM
Subject: En: Fatality in Brazil
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Michael Waldbrenner=20
To: 'Art Connection'=20
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 3:16 PM
Subject: AW: Fatality in Brazil
Then you are absolutely right !
If he took the risk HE should be blamed....
I only get angry when Instructors still promote unsafe things.... but in =
this case it looks like you
hit the nail on the head !
=20
Michael
-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Art Connection [mailto:artconnection@at*.ne*]
Gesendet: Montag, 20. November 2000 14:10
An: Michael Waldbrenner
Betreff: Re: Fatality in Brazil
Michael,
I can assure you that the guy's instructor do not agree with his =
dive profile, that's why it made me so upset when I read e-mails calling =
him a murder! People should get information before judging people they =
do not even know. And this kind of behavior goes against the evolution =
of cave/tech diving, people should be at least, as you said, polite to =
discuss facts that are important for all divers.=20
The guy was a certified full cave diver and trimix diver and he had =
all knowledge he needed. He choosed to take the risk. And the dude has =
no experience in cave diving and said in an e-mail that he, actually, =
does not know any cave diving instructor!!!
I'm living in Brasil.
Adriana
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Michael Waldbrenner=20
To: 'Art Connection'=20
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 11:34 AM
Subject: AW: Fatality in Brazil
> I did not say, at any moment, that I agree with deep-air =
diving.=20
Good !
=20
> In my opinion fatalities do have to be openly discussed by =
whoever is interested in the case, if the informations bring=20
> benefits for the divers. But I do not agree with the way these =
informations have been put. The point is that this guy, who=20
> is calling the instructors murders, dot not know these people, he =
do not know anything about the way they teach. From which=20
> sources you got the information that his instructors incentivated =
him on deep-air diving? Gustavo was free to do whatever he=20
> wanted. It would be crazy if we begin to blame all open water =
instructors for all open water divers ( and there are many ) who=20
> have died in caves, for example.=20
Doing deep-air either means that one has not learned enough, or he is =
just stupid.
Of course one is still free to do whatever he wants, but more and more =
caves are beeing closed or regulated due
to the fact that people kill themselves...
=20
> It is sad that people keep judging without any knowledge about =
what they are saying. And I can assure you that the joke I=20
> mention was not the kind of mechanism you are thinking, and it did =
not refer to the accident, it was something that means that=20
> if I (Adriana) have my problems he do not care about, what he said =
with a very ironic way. I think that this showed how imature =20
> this guy is.=20
Then you are right, if this dude had no knowledge and only did a joke =
then it is at least not polite....
So i agree with you on that.
=20
> Don't you hesitate to call people you do not know murders?
If they do air-diving or teach air-diving in overhead environments i =
don=B4t hesitate !
There are better ways to do it and they are also risking their buddies =
lives !=20
=20
> Adriana =20
Michael
=20
Where are you living ?
=20
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Michael Waldbrenner=20
To: 'Art Connection'=20
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 9:03 AM
Subject: AW: Fatality in Brazil
Hello Adriana,
=20
most agencies know that Deep-Air is plain stupidity, escpecially in =
caves and some of those agencies still teach it.
In south France i even saw a cave-COURSE in a cave in a depth of 50m =
on Air !
50m on AIR in a CAVE at a COURSE !
=20
I would not hesitate to call them murder !
=20
It is as sad as it is !
=20
The jokes, the ranting, the fighting are mechanism like surgeons =
have them. It is a kind of black humour and
i think it often has a good intention.
=20
Michael (Germany)
=20
=20
-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Art Connection [mailto:artconnection@at*.ne*]
Gesendet: Freitag, 17. November 2000 18:02
An: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Betreff: Fatality in Brazil
Hi, guys.
I'd like to say that I feel very disapointed with some messages =
I read.=20
This guy, Scott, released a message from Danilo Alegrini. A =
behavior that, in my opinion shows no responsability at all. How can =
this Danilo judge people he does not even know?! He is releasing =
messages saying that the boy's instructors are murders! And he hardly =
has experience in tech dive.=20
Does he think that this kind of behavior would bring any =
benefits for tech dive?
It is a stupid behavior, don't you think? Divers from all =
associations, societys, etc, should take these fatalitys as a source for =
researches to avoid others to happen, not an opportunity to judge other =
divers, to do self promotion, causing nonsense discussions that lead to =
nothing. I sent an e-mail to this Danilo and he, very ironic, answered =
with a joke. Is this person worried about the evolution of tech dive?=20
Adriana =20
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<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A=20
href=3D"mailto:artconnection@at*.ne*" =
title=3Dartconnection@at*.ne*>Art=20
Connection</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:techdiver-request@aquanaut.com"=20
title=3Dtechdiver-request@aquanaut.com>techdiver-request@aquanaut.com</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 21, 2000 1:25 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> En: Fatality in Brazil</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A=20
href=3D"mailto:Michael.Waldbrenner@wa*.de*"=20
title=3DMichael.Waldbrenner@wa*.de*>Michael Waldbrenner</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:artconnection@at*.ne*"=20
title=3Dartconnection@at*.ne*>'Art Connection'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 20, 2000 3:16 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> AW: Fatality in Brazil</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D270481317-20112000>Then=20
you are absolutely right !</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D270481317-20112000>If he=20
took the risk HE should be blamed....</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D270481317-20112000>I only=20
get angry when Instructors still promote unsafe things.... but in this =
case it=20
looks like you</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D270481317-20112000>hit=20
the nail on the head !</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D270481317-20112000></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D270481317-20112000>Michael</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----<BR><B>Von:</B> Art =
Connection [<A=20
href=3D"mailto:artconnection@at*.ne*">mailto:artconnection@attgloba=
l.net</A>]<BR><B>Gesendet:</B>=20
Montag, 20. November 2000 14:10<BR><B>An:</B> Michael=20
Waldbrenner<BR><B>Betreff:</B> Re: Fatality in =
Brazil<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> =
Michael,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> I can assure you =
that the guy's=20
instructor do not agree with his dive profile, that's why it made me so =
upset=20
when I read e-mails calling him a murder! People should get information =
before=20
judging people they do not even know. And this kind of behavior goes =
against the=20
evolution of cave/tech diving, people should be at least, as you said, =
polite to=20
discuss facts that are important for all divers. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> The guy was a =
certified full=20
cave diver and trimix diver and he had all knowledge he needed. He =
choosed to=20
take the risk. </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And the dude has no =
experience in=20
cave diving and said in an e-mail that he, actually, does not know any =
cave=20
diving instructor!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> I'm living in=20
Brasil.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
Adriana</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:Michael.Waldbrenner@wa*.de*"=20
title=3DMichael.Waldbrenner@wa*.de*>Michael Waldbrenner</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:artconnection@at*.ne*"=20
title=3Dartconnection@at*.ne*>'Art Connection'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 19,
2000 =
11:34=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> AW: Fatality in =
Brazil</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D090412613-19112000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff> > </FONT></SPAN> I did =
not say,=20
at any moment, that I agree with deep-air diving.<FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DI
V>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><FONT
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000>Good
!</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><FONT
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DI
V>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D090412613-19112000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff> > </FONT></SPAN> In my =
opinion=20
fatalities do have to be openly discussed by whoever is interested in =
the=20
case, if the informations bring<SPAN class=3D090412613-19112000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D090412613-19112000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff>></FONT> </SPAN> benefits <SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN>for the =
divers. But I do not=20
agree with the way these informations have been put. The =
point is=20
that this guy, who<FONT color=3D#0000ff><SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DI
V>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000>> </SPAN> is <SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN>calling=20
the instructors murders, dot not know these people, he do not=20
know anything about the way they teach. From which<SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D090412613-19112000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff>></FONT> </SPAN> sources you got the =
information that=20
his instructors incentivated him on deep-air diving? Gustavo was free =
to do=20
whatever he<SPAN class=3D090412613-19112000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000>> </SPAN> wanted. It would be crazy =
if we=20
begin to blame all open water instructors for all open water =
divers ( and=20
there are many ) who<SPAN class=3D090412613-19112000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D090412613-19112000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff>></FONT> </SPAN> have died in caves, for =
example.<FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DI
V>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><FONT
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000>Doing deep-air either means that one has =
not learned=20
enough, or he is just stupid.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><FONT
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000>Of course one is still free to do whatever =
he wants,=20
but more and more caves are beeing closed or regulated=20
due</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><FONT
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000>to the fact that people kill=20
themselves...</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><FONT
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DI
V>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D090412613-19112000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff> > </FONT></SPAN> It is =
sad that=20
people keep judging without any knowledge about what they are saying. =
And I=20
can assure you that the joke I<SPAN class=3D090412613-19112000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D090412613-19112000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff>></FONT> </SPAN> mention was not the kind of =
mechanism=20
you are thinking, and it did not refer to the accident, it was =
something that=20
means that<SPAN class=3D090412613-19112000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D090412613-19112000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff>></FONT> </SPAN> if I (Adriana) have my =
problems he=20
do not care about, what he said with a very ironic way. I think that =
this=20
showed how imature <SPAN class=3D090412613-19112000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D090412613-19112000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff>></FONT> </SPAN>this guy is.<FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DI
V>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><FONT
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000>Then you are right, if this dude had no =
knowledge and=20
only did a joke then it is at least not=20
polite....</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><FONT
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000>So i agree with you on=20
that.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><FONT
color=3D#0000ff><SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DI
V>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D090412613-19112000><FONT=20
=
color=3D#0000ff> > </FONT></SPAN> Don=
't you=20
hesitate to call people you do not know murders?</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D090412613-19112000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff>If they do air-diving or teach air-diving in overhead=20
environments i don=B4t hesitate
!</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D090412613-19112000><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff>There are better ways to do it and they are also =
risking their=20
buddies lives !</FONT> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000>> </SPAN> =20
Adriana</FONT></FONT> <FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000> </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000>Michael</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000>Where are you living ?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D090412613-19112000> </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> =20
</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:Michael.Waldbrenner@wa*.de*"=20
title=3DMichael.Waldbrenner@wa*.de*>Michael Waldbrenner</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:artconnection@at*.ne*"=20
title=3Dartconnection@at*.ne*>'Art Connection'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November
18, =
2000 9:03=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> AW: Fatality in =
Brazil</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D440115910-18112000>Hello Adriana,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D440115910-18112000></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D440115910-18112000>most agencies know that Deep-Air is plain =
stupidity, escpecially in caves and some of those agencies still =
teach=20
it.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D440115910-18112000>In=20
south France i even saw a cave-COURSE in a cave in a depth of 50m on =
Air=20
!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D440115910-18112000>50m on AIR in a CAVE at a COURSE=20
!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D440115910-18112000></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D440115910-18112000>I=20
would not hesitate to call them murder !</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D440115910-18112000></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D440115910-18112000>It=20
is as sad as it is !</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D440115910-18112000></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D440115910-18112000>The jokes, the ranting, the fighting are =
mechanism=20
like surgeons have them. It is a kind of black humour=20
and</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D440115910-18112000>i=20
think it often has a good intention.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D440115910-18112000></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D440115910-18112000>Michael (Germany)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D440115910-18112000></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D440115910-18112000></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----<BR><B>Von:</B> Art =
Connection=20
[mailto:artconnection@at*.ne*]<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Freitag, =
17.=20
November 2000 18:02<BR><B>An:</B> =
techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Betreff:</B>=20
Fatality in Brazil<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Hi, =
guys.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> I'd like to say =
that I feel=20
very disapointed with some messages I read. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> This guy, Scott, =
released a=20
message from Danilo Alegrini. A behavior that, in my opinion shows =
no=20
responsability at all. How can this Danilo judge people he does not =
even=20
know?! He is releasing messages saying that the boy's =
instructors=20
are murders! And he hardly has experience in tech dive. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Does he think =
that this kind=20
of behavior would bring any benefits for tech dive?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> It is a stupid =
behavior,=20
don't you think? Divers from all associations, societys, etc, should =
take=20
these fatalitys as a source for researches to avoid others to =
happen, not an=20
opportunity to judge other divers, to do self promotion, causing =
nonsense=20
discussions that lead to nothing. I sent an e-mail to this Danilo =
and he,=20
very ironic, answered with a joke. Is this person worried about the=20
evolution of tech dive? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> =20
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Adriana </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>
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