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From: Scott A Gudmundsen <gudmund@si*.co*>
To: <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>
CC: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:40:28 -0600
Subject: RE: Black "M.D." (The M.D. must mean your really smart, huh?)
Mr. Black,

Respect is earned, not granted by a piece of paper, no matter how=
 educated one is. The truly wise know how little they know and=
 spend more time listening before offering an opinion based on=
 ignorance. Just because you know a tiny bit about a specific=
 subject (medicine), doesn't make you an automatic expert in=
 another field where you are obviously a novice. Also, it is not=
 so hard to have an average cycling speed (in a pack) of 27 mph,=
 especially in Florida where the only hills are the freeway=
 overpasses. So how many miles did you log this year cycling?=
 Swimming? Running? Diving? Mixing your own gas?

How many dives have you logged using mixed gases? Carrying stage=
 bottles? Geared D.I.R.? In a dry suit inflated with argon? How=
 deep? How long? From what experiences do you offer your opinions=
 and conclusions?

Scott Gudmundsen
Vernal, Utah

On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:35:03 -0700 (PDT), Michael J. Black=
 wrote:
>"He is so out of his league it is ridiculous."
>
>I couldn't have said it better myself, Dr. Cycle Cell. =A0When you=
 get
>your M.D., Sheila, maybe you will get some respect from me.=
 =A0Until
>then
>please stop pretending, someone could get hurt listening to you
>(unless
>of course they realize what a blowhard you are).
>
>Have a nice triathlon before work today?, and "most every day=
 of
>(your)
>life?" =A0Uh huh.
>
>MJB
>
>--- Trey <trey@ne*.co*>=A0wrote:
>>=A0Kevin, this is like all of his other bullshit - he is so out=
 of
>>his league
>>=A0it is ridiculous. You saw the stroke "accuse" me of having my=
 GF
>>dive gas in
>>=A0a cave - there you go. Look at his Manifesto on the rec scuba=
 site
>>- it is
>>=A0like an Emily Latella script form Saturday Night Live - if the=
 guy
>>was not
>>=A0such a committed asshole it would actually be pretty funny.
>>
>>=A0-----Original Message-----
>>=A0From: Metcalfe Kevin J COCA=
 [mailto:kmetcalfe@ns*.na*.mi*]
>>=A0Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 4:16 PM
>>=A0To: 'Michael J. Black'; Trey
>>=A0Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>>=A0Subject: RE: Black M.D. (Major Dickhead)
>>
>>
>>=A0I'm kind of wondering what's so amusing. =A0An olympic distance
>>triathlon
>>=A0isn't all that much distance. =A02km swim, 40km bike and 10km=
 run.
>>Though I'm
>>=A0"just" a bike racer, not a multisport type guy, I will ride=
 25
>>miles (~40km)
>>=A0and run 5 miles (~8km) today, and every day this week.=
 =A0Weekends
>>are for
>>=A0long rides ~80 miles a pop. =A0For somebody who's an athlete 3=
 hours
>>a day is
>>=A0normal. =A0My training log shows 16-21 hours a week depending=
 upon
>>what's
>>=A0going on in my life. =A0Added to a 40 hour a week job. =A0You=
 don't
>>have to be
>>=A0superman, you just need to have the desire to be fit. =A0If you=
 have
>>the
>>=A0desire, you will find the time. =A0Now, that may seem extreme to=
 a
>>couch
>>=A0potato, it's not that big a deal to a trained athlete. =A0Your
>>=A0amazement/disbelief gives me a hint as to which group you=
 belong
>>to, "Dr".
>>
>>=A0Kevin Metcalfe
>>=A0kmetcalfe@ns*.na*.mi*
>>=A0925-246-5938
>>=A0DSN 350-5938
>>
>>
>>
>>=A0>=A0-----Original Message-----
>>=A0>=A0From: Michael J. Black [mailto:mjblackmd@ya*.co*]
>>=A0>=A0Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 1:53 PM
>>=A0>=A0To: Trey
>>=A0>=A0Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>>=A0>=A0Subject: RE: Black M.D. (Major Dickhead)
>>=A0>
>>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0George Irvine <kirvine@sa*.ne*>=A0wrote, on 9/16/99:
>>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0"Keep in mind that I do the equivalent of an olympic=
 trialthelon
>>most
>>=A0>=A0every day of my life. =A0In fact I did one this morning=
 before
>>work."
>>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0http://www.nwls.com/list-archive/reademail.asp?id=3D25672
>>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! =A0Man, you are too funny.=
 =A0Some
>>day
>>=A0>=A0a Best of George Irvine will appear, and the diving world
>>=A0>=A0will howl. =A0MJB
>>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0--- Trey <trey@ne*.co*>=A0wrote:
>>=A0>=A0>=A0You are so pathetic.Keep it up - the "girlfriend diving
>>=A0>=A0mixed gas" =A0put you
>>=A0>=A0>=A0right over the top in the ignorance category. You do not
>>=A0>=A0seem to get the
>>=A0>=A0>=A0reality of the situation - my diving and record stand
>>=A0>=A0despite the whining of
>>=A0>=A0>=A0the losers, and those who are subscribing to my=
 information
>>=A0>=A0are constantly
>>=A0>=A0>=A0growing in number.You should have seen the crowd of=
 doctors
>>=A0>=A0around me in Key
>>=A0>=A0>=A0West trying to get more information on types of DCS and=
 why
>>=A0>=A0we think they
>>=A0>=A0>=A0happen in comparing notes with their experiments ,=
 theories
>>=A0>=A0and results. You
>>=A0>=A0>=A0are nothing but a pussy and a bald little masturbating
>>=A0>=A0fuckup whom everyone
>>=A0>=A0>=A0is laughing at.
>>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>=A0By the way, what do you have your girlfriend dive besides=
 a
>>=A0>=A0Halloween mask,
>>=A0>=A0>=A0or should I say "significant other"?
>>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>=A0-----Original Message-----
>>=A0>=A0>=A0From: Michael J. Black [mailto:mjblackmd@ya*.co*]
>>=A0>=A0>=A0Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 3:25 PM
>>=A0>=A0>=A0To: Trey
>>=A0>=A0>=A0Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>>=A0>=A0>=A0Subject: RE: Black M.D. (Major Dickhead)
>>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>=A0Just because you are paranoid Trey doesn't mean you're=
 not
>>being
>>=A0>=A0>=A0watched. =A0HAHAHAHAHAHA! =A0Your personal life is as much of=
 a
>>tragedy
>>=A0>=A0>=A0as your bad mouth, bad boy, and just another example of=
 why
>>=A0>=A0you cannot
>>=A0>=A0>=A0be believed or trusted. =A0Had any slobitis (DCS-Type I)
>>=A0>=A0lately? =A0Still
>>=A0>=A0>=A0flying only 3 hours after a deep deco dive? =A0Racking up
>>20,000% on
>>=A0>=A0>=A0the CNS O2 clock, or have you jacked the number higher?=
 =A0And
>>are
>>=A0>=A0>=A0you still averaging 28mph on those long bike rides (you=
 lying
>>POS,
>>=A0>=A0>=A0that one really buried you, cuz I ride with Cat 2's=
 regularly,
>>liar,
>>=A0>=A0>=A0and even they cannot average that speed)? =A0Have a nice=
 day,
>>Trey.
>>=A0>=A0>=A0I'll stop by and visit now and then. =A0MJB
>>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>=A0--- Trey <trey@ne*.co*>=A0wrote:
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0Mike, I am going to take your slander up with you
>>=A0>=A0personally, but I will
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0address one thing here: you accuse me of having my
>>=A0>=A0girlfriend "diving
>>=A0>=A0>=A0mixed
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0gas in caves". This again proves how little you know
>>=A0>=A0about diving: we ONLY
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0dive mixed gas in caves, you dumb fuck. Mike, you do=
 not
>>=A0>=A0belong here. This
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0is techdiver.
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0Let me ask you something: did you think the men dove=
 gas
>>=A0>=A0and the women
>>=A0>=A0>=A0dove
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0air in the WKPP? Are you really this fucking stupid? I=
 am
>>=A0>=A0also still
>>=A0>=A0>=A0waiting
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0to find out what "steroid" you think will give me a
>>=A0>=A0diving advantage,
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0because if such a thing exists ( which it obviously=
 does
>>=A0>=A0not , "doc" ) =A0I
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0want some, and I am still wondering what my personal=
 life
>>=A0>=A0as to do with
>>=A0>=A0>=A0you,
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0techdiver or diving?
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0Can you explain some of these things, "doc"?
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0From: Michael J. Black [mailto:mjblackmd@ya*.co*]
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 11:39 AM
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0To: Trey
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0Subject: RE: Black M.D. (Major Dickhead)
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0Spell it D.I.R., and here's the definition (once more):
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0http://x56.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=3D581971410
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0Best,
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0MJB
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0--- Trey <trey@ne*.co*>=A0wrote:
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0What the fuck is your problem, Mike? Want to spell it
>>=A0>=A0out for me?
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0-----Original Message-----
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0From: Michael J. Black [mailto:mjblackmd@ya*.co*]
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 9:06 PM
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0To: Trey
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0Subject: RE: Black M.D. (Major Dickhead)
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0Hey there Mr. Steroid-User,
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0Wanna tell us about your divorce, and new girlfriend?
>>=A0>=A0Rumor is you
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0robbed the cradle and have her diving mixed gas in
>>=A0>=A0caves already.
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0Glad to know you bash me on the GUE list too. =A0I do
>>=A0>=A0appreciate the
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0hero worship, especially from DIR's king pin, and I
>>=A0>=A0love to bowl.
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0Your pal,
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0MJBMD
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0--- Trey <trey@ne*.co*>=A0wrote:
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0Todd, I bet he sucks a mean dick.
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0Get a life you loser!! Have you ever kissed a
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>girl? You haven't, have you?
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>
>>=A0>=A0>=A0>=A0>
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