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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 01:38:55 +1100 (EST)
From: Jens Schamberger <schambrg@ch*.us*.ed*.au*>
To: Jeff Swann <jiswann@au*.ga*.ne*>
Cc: Steven Bliim <Steven.Bliim@mc*.co*.au*>,
     Techdiver
Subject: Re: Air as a travel gas ?
Jeff

> I do not think you need to do deep air any more to do trimix.

I do not know how deep "deep" really is. I have to talk to
the instructor about it. But as I said I do not mind the course,
when it helps me to get rid of deep air finally.

> Legally, I would take it up with the guys teaching.

I do not think that this would be necessary. Most instructors are nice
guys and a most of them are much brighter and more sensible than the
white noise in the Tec-list tells us. So I am looking forward to do all
the courses I need and get certified.

> Does the TDI Extended Range Course still involve an air dive to 55m?

Don't know. I did some dives to more than 50m on air. I do not have
any problems doing these courses. I did not feel
particular bad on deep dives or after it.
But I realized they are dangerous and there is a better way to do it.
That's why I want to try mixed gases. 
It is just rather cynical that if you want to try out a saver way of
diving some agencies require you to do all the stupid things, you want to
avoid, first. 
The instructor I spoke with about the He-course is ANDI (there seem to be
countless agencies). 
I do not know what is teached in his "deco course" (that is the name
I gave it). Maybe this course just involves dive planning and doing deco
dives in the 40m range. Which still would be in the recreational limits.
(Maybe not PADI limits, but I am not PADI certified)
As I said I need to talk to him.
I will do that as soon as I find the time. 
As I pointed out, he seems to be quite sensible. I certainly can improve
my skills a lot by learning from him.

Bye, Jens. 



> That was the most dangerous dive I ever did!!
> I am Cave and Advanced Trimix certified.
> Jeff the Darwinian.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jens Schamberger <schambrg@ch*.us*.ed*.au*>
> To: Steven Bliim <Steven.Bliim@mc*.co*.au*>
> Cc: Jeff Swann (E-mail) <jiswann@au*.ga*.ne*>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 12:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Air as a travel gas ?
> 
> 
> > Steven
> >
> > I was told by Billy who is on the tec-list and lives in Northern Sydney
> > that,
> > if I  want an intelligent instructor, I should check out
> > Richard Nicholls at Dive Centre Manly. 02 9977 4355.
> > He's the one most of us DIR divers in Sydney recommend
> > and he will do the course DIR if I want to. I did not speak
> > to him about DIR yet. But I gave him a ring and he seems to
> > be quite a sensible guy. I still have to do nitrox and deep-air
> > courese first, I do not mind it. It is just surprises me that in
> > order to get rid of deep air I have to prove that I can dive deep
> > air. Not really logical.
> > So I will slowley drift towards mixed gases.
> >
> > Bye, Jens.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Jens
> > >
> > > As a matter of interest who is the instructor in Manly who does DIR?
> > >
> > > Steve Bliim
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jens Schamberger [mailto:schambrg@ch*.us*.ed*.au*]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 18 October 2000 21:24
> > > To:
> > > Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > > Subject: Re: Air as a travel gas ?
> > >
> > > Hi Jeff,
> > >
> > > > The thought was to switch from air to trimix at 55m and feel the
> > > difference.
> > > > Although quite dangerous as we would all agree, it highlighted the
> > > difference.
> > >
> > > It will highlight the difference :-)
> > >
> > > > I don't know if TDI still promotes this.
> > > > Jens, you would need to speak to Richard Taylor.
> > >
> > > I allready got in contact with an instructor in Manly,
> > > who was recommented by one of the list members.
> > > I was just concerned about that "travel gas" issue, it
> > > got me confused.
> > >
> > > > A mate of mine did the TDI normoxic trimix course in Sydney recently,
> he
> > > > uses twin independents, and I think both back tanks had mix.
> > >
> > > The guy in Manly seems to do it DIR if want that.
> > > Sounds like a good idea to me.
> > > >From the recent discussions on the list I know that DIR
> > > is actually much more than just gear. It is also about right
> > > judgement and decissions. Seams very resonable to me.
> > >
> > > > If you have any reason to come up to Darwin, let us know.
> > >
> > > Thanks. I may come at the end of the year, when I need holidays :-)
> > >
> > > Thanks, Jens.
> > >
> > >
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> >
> 
> 

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