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From: CaptnDale@ao*.co* [mailto:CaptnDale@ao*.co*] -------- <<Why in the world would an instructor advocate something so stupid as to put a harness over a harness? When I teach recreational divers to ice dive I have them attach their line to their scuba harness, as long as there is no way that they can slip out of it. Only if they are using a BC jacket with no suitable attachment point do I have them use a seperate harness. Then, I have them put on a simple light sailor's harness *under* their BC. I do not think any of this is outside of PADI standards.>> Dale, the recreational instructors don't dive harness and wings up here, and they are affraid of pulling the air source from the diver if the harness comes undone. Your method of instruction is very similar to the way I was taught with a harness, and a BC. Our harness wasn't the little sailing harness, but rather a big harness with a crotch strap very similar to a DIR harness. 2 harnesses at the same time is cumbersome and uselessly redundant, yet it's required up here. The original question was how to ice dive DIR. Although what you describe is safe, and often used, I'm doubtful that it's DIR. I wish that someone who is DIR would step in and clear this up. <<I agree that such a proceedure is both stupid and dangerous. It makes me wonder what kind of idiot taught you to ice dive. The diver should always swim up and back under his own power. Only if the diver signals his tender to pull him up (in an emergency) should this happen. >> Yes very stupid, but none the less the way I was taught. I don't practice this, for obvious reasons. ss -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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