The sum of the inert gases is the reciprocal of the oxygen window - so no is the answer. See the other post. -----Original Message----- From: Terry Michael [mailto:terry-1@ly*.co*] Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 1:33 AM To: wendell grogan; techdiver@aquanaut.com; Trey Subject: RE: Nitrogen elimination and oxygen Would neox be more effective for the later stages of the decompression? What about the 3 m stop is it going to make a come back of sorts? Now that we're down to 12 minutes between breaks. Anyway good stuff thanks! -- On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 06:46:37 Trey wrote: >WG, for us the relevance of that is in knowing when to drop the pressure. >Obviously here hyperbaric oxygen implies hyperbaric surroundings. We found >that you reach a quick near limit at any given pressure, and continuation at >that pressure is not nearly as effective as reducing the pressure while >maintaining the oxygen window, as you point out. > >I wonder why these messages are taking so long to clear? > > >-----Original Message----- >From: wendell grogan [mailto:docgrog@ya*.de*] >Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 3:27 PM >To: techdiver@aquanaut.com >Subject: Nitrogen elimination and oxygen > > >I found the abstract for the first article and the >reference in DiveMed. >I think this is a typical case of trying to apply >basic research on the healthy body to a similar, but >not identical situation during an illness. >Basically, he is talking about the effect of >hyperbaric oxygen (supplied as an argon/oxygen mix- >not 100% O2) on elimination of nitrogen through the >lungs of normal people in a chamber. The second >article, I haven't found, but the title suggests that >it deals with a state we already know is bad for deco- >hypercarbia (too much CO2). >The point of hyperbaric treatment is to eliminate >nitrogen bubbles, and then secondarily to eliminate >excess nitrogen so that the bubbles don't re-form when >the pressure is dropped back to 1 atm. The research >didn't show that nitrogen stops leaving the body, >rather, it doesn't leave as fast when the subject was >subjected to hyperbaric oxygen as it did when he was >kept slightly hypoxic. Further, there was no >significant difference in nitrogen elimination between >hypoxic and normoxic inspired gas. >Relevance to Nitrox- 0 >Relevance to emergency use of 100% O2 on the surface- >0 >Relevance to use of 100% O2 in hyperbaric treatment- 0 >The most I could conclude from this is that increasing >the speed at which excess nitrogen in eliminated from >the blood in may not be among the many known benefits >of oxygen treatment for DCS. This doesn't alter the >fact that for deco, the 100% oxygen clearly speeds up >elimination of nitrogen when compared to air because >1) it doesn't have nitrogen in it, and 2) the oxygen >window. >Wendell Grogan > >===== >"Experts built the Titanic, but volunteers built the Ark!" >Pat Croce, Owner NBA Philadelphia 76'ers > >__________________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de >Yahoo! Mail auf Ihrem Handy? - http://mobil.yahoo.de >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > Get FREE Email/Voicemail with 15MB at Lycos Communications at http://comm.lycos.com -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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