You are correct, Kane probably should have run the line, but I was in too 
much of a hurry and did it myself, I thought they did not know the hook was 
out and  I was in hot pursuit of them.

  At 09:14 PM 10/17/00 -0400, Trey wrote:
>JT has no pool, so it's ok. Actually , Kane should have run the reel - he
>had the tow behind scooter. JJ can't run a reel off of a ride on - nobody
>can for long.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Terry Michael" <terry-1@ly*.co*>
>To: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>; "Mike Rodriguez" <mikey@ma*.co*>;
>"Michael Barnette" <aocfishman@ho*.co*>; "Capt JT"
><captjt@mi*.co*>
>Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 8:54 PM
>Subject: Re: AUE Weekend Dive Report
>
>
> > >I cut my line and placed the reel on my right chest D ring.
> >
> > Never do that during a dive.
> >
> > >scooter is still running, and I beat the handle till it stopped running.
> >
> > I hear moving the magnet manualy sometime works:)
> >
> > >I got my shit together and took off again, it was only a matter of a
>minute or so that my scooter sucked up the line again.
> >
> > These things need to be worked out in the pool, in my
> > opinion. Not at a deep wreck site where someone could get killed.
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:27:14
> >  Capt JT wrote:
> > >At 06:48 AM 10/16/00 -0400, Trey wrote:
> > >>JT, then who are Mike Kane and Michael Blitch?
> > >
> > >Hi George
> > >  Mike Kane is mostly known as MHK and is from Ca., Michael Blitch also
> > >known as MJB. I do believe they dive with you sometimes.
> > >
> > >>  I have never been diving with
> > >>Rodriguez and those guys , I just assumed they were on the ball because
>they
> > >>pay lip service to DIR - they just proved me wrong- my mistake. It is
>like
> > >>you getting Christina to put her bottles on the left side - does not
>make
> > >>her any different.
> > >
> > >?????
> > >
> > >
> > >>JT, that was a mess, and not how I would play the game. The fact is the
> > >>guy's judgment and execution both sucked. You can not tell me any
>different.
> > >
> > >As things don't always go to plan, you will find that on the deep dives I
> > >am usually the first to go down on the wreck (to make sure it is a doable
> > >dive) or the last( to handle any mishap). The other person who takes the
> > >first or last spot is someone I trust to call the dive or render
> > >assistance. Which  in most cases is Rick Atkins, which is what we did on
> > >this dive.
> > >
> > >
> > >>You may have a huge tolerance for nonsense,you may be a real nice guy,
>but I
> > >>am not and I have zero willingness to play with less than top pros, but
>then
> > >>I do not have to tolerate anything in my organization, and none of my
>key
> > >>people will either. Everyone does it our way or they do not get to play.
> > >>Problem solved.
> > >
> > >I think some may disagree with you about that, but if I was not open
>minded
> > >about diving and continue to keep my learning curve going, I would not
>have
> > >tried any of the DIR gear configurations and still be stuck in the old
> > >timers ways. So yes I must have a huge tolerance for nonsense, I see your
> > >point clearly.
> > >
> > >
> > >>Any other situation, we stay home. Diving is not important enough to get
>me
> > >>killed , JT, sorry. These people are not my friends, never have been and
> > >>never will be, and even if they were, I'd still say the same thing.
> > >
> > >I'm sure that is true. Below is what is on my web site www.capt-jt.com on
> > >the stories page about the dive. It has been confirmed as the truth by
> > >everyone on the trip, if anyone says that it is different from what
>happen
> > >they should keep this in mind, I save all my in and out emails so I have
>a
> > >record of such things as this dive. I have all the ones that I need to
>show
> > >everyone the story is accurate. If you would like to discuss the story I
> > >would be glad to help out, to be honest I was not happy about them
>leaving
> > >the anchor line as the hook was NOT IN THE WRECK at that time and I do
> > >agree with you that the dive should have been called by them at that
>point.
> > >I also understand that they both are used to doing drifting decos in FL
>and
> > >we had a back up plan with the chase boat in case that happen, so they
>did
> > >not consider it a problem ( thus I do have a tolerance and understanding
>at
> > >least one time) . I on the other hand look at everything as a being a
> > >problem and called the dive when I found them. I would still dive with
> > >either one of them and you for that matter, MY predive briefing needs to
>be
> > >more clear on the hook set I think.
> > >
> > >FROM MY SITE:
> > >
> > >We arrived back at the dock around 8pm, a long day. Several of the quest
> > >remained (Mike Kane, Mike Rodriguez, and MJB) to go back out with us to
> > >dive the Battleship Washington depth 300ft and an unknown in 140ft. The
> > >boat departed the dock at midnight for the 60 mile run, the plan was to
> > >mark an unknown on the way out to ensure it was there and that would be
>our
> > >second dive of the day on the way in if it was there.
> > >We marked the unknown wreck and moved on to dive the Washington, after
> > >several attempts to hook the wreck, Kane and I were going to scooter down
> > >behind the hook and tie in. He would use his Gavin and I would use my
> > >modified dacor.But during our analyzing of our gas the wreck was hooked.
> > >So we went back to the first plan. Rick Atkins, Eric Deister, Gary
> > >Sanderson, and Rodney King went in as the first team and tie in. Allyson
> > >met them on the return and came back with a slate to report that we were
> > >hooked into the wreck, but a secure tie in could not be done.
> > >Team 2 was sent in during the deco of team one, team 2 was lead by Dave
> > >Widen, with him was Todd Clagett, Mike Fantone, and Bill Ripley. They
>also
> > >could not do a secure tie in and chose not venture to far from the hook.
> > >Teams one and two went uneventful for the most part, some were treated to
>a
> > >visit by a large sunfish during their deco.
> > >Team 3 had more than enough happen that should keep the list rolling for
> > >days. Team 3 went as follows ( COKE ALERT) MJB and Mike Rodriguez would
>go
> > >a few minutes ahead of Kane and myself at the end of our dive I would
>pull
> > >the hook. Kane and myself had planned to scooter as much of the wreck as
>we
> > >could, while the other 2 would do a small portion of the wreck, we all
>had
> > >plans for 15- 20 minutes BT. MJB and Mike went in about 5 minutes ahead
>of
> > >Kane and I.
> > >I was scootering down the anchor line with Kane just behind me. As the
> > >bottom came into view all I could see was sand NO wreck, NO lights from
>MJB
> > >or Mike R., the hook was out of the wreck and they were on the wreck. I
> > >broke out my wreck reel with 540ft of line on it, clipped it to the
>anchor
> > >and scootered to were the wreck should be to get the others, MHK followed
> > >me on his Gavin, my scooter was now at 286ft and working, but someone had
> > >stepped on the trigger on the boat and cracked it before the dive. At
>that
> > >time even at depth it was OK.
> > >The wreck is turtled and is 624 x 97 x 30 a very large site. It has up to
> > >240ft of relief. The hook was about 80ft from the wreck and we found
> > >MJB&MIke R coming back from the rudder. I signaled them to follow my line
> > >and called the dive. I looked at my spool and could see we were about
>250ft
> > >from the hook. I cut my line and placed the reel on my right chest D ring
>.
> > >Just after leaving the wreck my scooter sucked up the dangling line from
>my
> > >reel and went into the prop. I did a controlled crash into the bottom to
> > >untangle it. I unwind the prop to get the line out and a short crank of
>the
> > >reel and I was ready to go, Kane watched as I undid the first CF. MJB &
> > >Mike R were still in hot pursuit of the anchor line as it was moving at a
> > >slow pace away from everyone.
> > >I got my shit together and took off again, it was only a matter of a
>minute
> > >or so that my scooter sucked up the line again but this time when I let
>off
> > >the trigger it broke off with the scooter still running. I again crashed
> > >into the bottom, but this time the scooter also sucked up the loose line
>we
> > >were following back to the anchor line.GD I thought, this is how it
> > >happens, I was now having a CF after a CF, I whipped out my knife and
> > >started cutting line off the scooter and me, MHK kept a safe distance so
>he
> > >would not be caught in the CF of line his self. I knew he would help if I
> > >needed it, but he had to be laughing at this point. Keep in mind the GD
> > >scooter is still running, and I beat the handle till it stopped running.
>I
> > >still had line in the prop so I did not waste time getting it out as I
>had
> > >no trigger to operate the scooter.
> > >I signal to MHK and I hung on to his crotch strap from behind him and he
> > >towed me, line, and broken scooter to the anchor line. This took about 2
> > >minutes to get to the anchor line towing me. The deco portion was
> > >uneventful, I don't think I could have taken any more shit from that
> > >scooter. I past the scooter and reel to Brad Beskin who was working as
> > >support diver and he took it up to the boat.
> > >After getting on the boat I was greeted by everyone to attend my own
> > >cookout this year, the sad part was both MJB and Mike Ridriguez saw the
> > >hook out of the wreck when they got there, it was no big deal to them, as
> > >that is how they do it in FL all the time.
> > >The second dive produced a few lobsters, I did a 2 hr SI and then a 20
> > >minute dive to see it max depth was 143ft.I will place a lot of photos of
> > >this past weekend on my site in a few days. You will love them I'm sure.
> > >Capt JT
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>----- Original Message -----
> > >>From: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>
> > >>To: "Mike Rodriguez" <mikey@ma*.co*>; "Michael Barnette"
> > >><aocfishman@ho*.co*>
> > >>Cc: <trey@ne*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > >>Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 10:56 PM
> > >>Subject: Re: AUE Weekend Dive Report
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Hi Mike R.
> > >> > Your account is correct, all others accounts of what happen are false
> > >> > unless you see it posted from the guys that dived the "Washington".
> > >> >
> > >> > As a piece of interesting info, George & JJ told me that there are
>only 2
> > >> > groups who are doing the deep wrecks correctly, yours & VBtech.
> > >> >
> > >> > JT
> > >> >
> > >> > At 12:48 PM 10/14/00 -0400, Mike Rodriguez wrote:
> > >> > >At 04:08 PM 10/12/2000 GMT, Michael Barnette wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Hi George,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >>You blab and blab and have no clue what you are
> > >> > > >>talking about, you make up bullshit , you run one ill thought out
> > >>stroke
> > >> > > >>operation after another , fuck up after fuck up like that
>bullshit you
> > >> > > >>pulled in Virginia, and then you want to give me shit.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Hmmm... I guess you're talking about me here (as opposed to Mike
> > >> > >Barnette).  What fuck-up was I involved with in Virginia?  As I
> > >> > >recall things, Mike Blitch and I went diving (100% DIR) on the
> > >> > >Washington, then we did deco, then we got on the boat.  I don't
> > >> > >remember being involved in any fuck-up.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Another team had a scooter entanglement on that dive, yes, but not
> > >> > >only were Mike Blitch and I *not* involved in that, we didn't even
> > >> > >see it or hear about it until long after we were back on the boat.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >-Mike Rodriguez
> > >> > ><mikey@mi*.ne*>
> > >> > >http://www.mikey.net/aue
> > >> > >Pn(x) = (1/(2^n)n!)[d/dx]^n(x^2 - 1)^n
> > >> > >
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