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Hi Ian, > Honestly, you guys are either very shortsighted Yep, blind as a bat without my contacts :) There are rec=2E divers out there who are > better divers > than many on this list will ever be=2E There are many rec=2E > divers who are > technical divers on other weekends=2E Exactly=2E Incompetent divers shouldn't be encouraged into deep dives and =20= =20 experienced divers should know the right way to handle a deep dive or at =20 least have sense enough to know that there is a better way=2E The guy who =20= =20 taught me gas diving ten years ago had an adage=2E=2E=2E if you need to ask= if =20 what you are doing is safe then you shouldn't be doing it=2E > There are many rec=2E divers who are very capable of safely > using Nitrox, and > would be just as capable of handling other such gases were > they allowed in > recreational diving=2E What? Are they waiting for permission from the Pope or something? How =20 many technical instructors are there out there? How many books? How many =20 websites? If they want it -- or have the sense to realise they need it -- =20= =20 then it is there=2E If they want to dive deep then learn how to do it =20 properly=2E Don't forget the "can't change a fin > strap" brigade > seldom dive Nitrox because they don't do the dives where its needed=2E I don't fly aeroplanes either=2E Maybe that is because I'm not a pilot -- =20= =20 but I know where I can learn=2E Don't get this=2E Wasn't this whole argumen= t =20 that rec divers should only use nitrox & trimix and not air? So why then =20 don't the dives require EAN? > > As for Jim's suggestion on an industry-wide ban on PO2s over > 1=2E2=2E So you > advocate regulation of an area of diving in which you're not involved > because you think its a little bit dangerous=2E Not advocating banning anything=2E There are countries where diving on =20 ppO2's above 1=2E2bar WAS illegal (wasn't this the case in Scandinavia a =20 few years ago?)=2E My point is don't try to dumb down gas diving for the inexperienced, =20 don't try to fit a twinset deco dive into a single bottle or rewrite =20 technique so it fits into their framework regardless of the implications =20 of that=2E Cheers, S > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: stuart=2Emorrison@sw*=2Eco=2Euk > > [mailto:stuart=2Emorrison@sw*=2Eco=2Euk] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 8:11 AM > > To: cobber@ci*=2Ecom; dmdalton@qu*=2Enet > > Cc: dwiden@ho*=2Ecom; donburke56@ne*=2Enet; Bakalite@ba*=2Eco= m; > > techdiver@aquanaut=2Ecom > > Subject: RE: rec trimix > > > > > > Jim, > > > > > if you need to spend more time down > > > there then you need > > > to do it right with doubles and a deco plan > > > > at last someone talking sense, trimix on single bottles, > recreational > > trimix certs, no-deco gas diving tables=2E=2E=2E what next - fat > tourists in > > lycra skins trying to work out gas dives on the wheel, > wearing Zeagle > > BCD's and black snorkles and trying to find somewhere to stuff their > > Spare Air? We are talking about a community that cannot change a > > finstrap > > without taking a training course first=2E It's a noble aim to > "save" rec > > divers from narcosis, but this is not the answer, it's a quick > > fix, it is > > not a solution=2E If you dive gas then dive it properly, this is > > beyond the > > realm of recreational diving=2E > > > > > > > > Visit our web site at www=2Escott-wilson=2Ecom > > > > Privilege and Confidentiality Notice=2E > > This e-mail and any attachments to it are intended only for > the party > > to whom they are addressed=2E They may contain privileged and/or > > confidential information=2E If you have received this transmission in > > error, please notify the sender immediately and delete any digital > > copies and destroy any paper copies=2E > > Thank you=2E > > > > > > Scott Wilson Scotland Ltd > > Registered in Scotland No=2E 48951, > > Registered Office: 6 Park Circus, Glasgow, G3 6AX=2E UK=2E > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > > This message has been checked for all known viruses, by > Star Internet, > > delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre=2E > > For further information visit: > > http://www=2Estar=2Enet=2Euk/stats=2Easp > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > `techdiver@aquanaut=2Ecom'=2E > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut=2Ecom'=2E > > > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > `techdiver@aquanaut=2Ecom'=2E > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut=2Ecom'=2E > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > This message has been checked for all known viruses, by Star > Internet, > delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre=2E > For further information visit: > http://www=2Estar=2Enet=2Euk/stats=2Easp > > > =20 Visit our web site at www=2Escott-wilson=2Ecom Privilege and Confidentiality Notice=2E This e-mail and any attachments to it are intended only for the party=20 to whom they are addressed=2E They may contain privileged and/or=20 confidential information=2E If you have received this transmission in=20 error, please notify the sender immediately and delete any digital=20 copies and destroy any paper copies=2E Thank you=2E Scott Wilson Scotland Ltd Registered in Scotland No=2E 48951,=20 Registered Office: 6 Park Circus, Glasgow, G3 6AX=2E UK=2E ________________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses, by Star Internet, delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. 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