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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 00:24:28 +0200
From: mat.voss@t-*.de* (Matthias Voss)
To: Don Burke <donburke56@ne*.ne*>
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: rec trimix


Don Burke schrieb:
> MV> ? Are you saying it is beyond the capacity of learning ? for how much %
> , 80 or 20 % ( Would it make that much difference , anyway )
> 
> I believe about 80% would eventually pass and about 20% would continue to
> fail, more than enough to put many dive shops under.

Well, it is a big step for a most AOWDs to continue any further, so if
100 % is the number of people interested in more education, I hope your
80% are correct, however it may take more time to teach than what you
want / should get paid for. 
I have met responsible divers with poor math skills, and Nobelprize
suspects I do not want to be near water with.
Are you saying that a failure rate of more than 20 percent would put the
economic situation of a dive shop at risk ?
Uff, that 's hard stuff. If true , doesn't this reflect a fault in the
general approach to diving , training , exercise; and last not least
whose fault?

 
> I know people who can't handle the math for Nitrox certification so they are
> eternal Nitrox students and only dive Nitrox with their instructor.

Sure. If everybody is content with it...
 
> 
> I spent a week on Bonaire and as I recall the pattern was something like 130
> feet or less on the morning dive, 100 feet or less in the afternoon and 80
> feet in the evening.  It has been a while so the numbers may be off, but you
> get the idea.  I would imagine many outfits use a similar scheme.

Well, this sounds pretty safe, in these waters.
> 
> Using helium for the evening dive would make little sense since it shortens
> the no-stop times and narcosis is a minor or nonexistant issue.  Why use
> helium when it isn't needed?

Yep.
If everybody would use it , be it after  some certification or
DIY,because they heard it was en vogue for less breathing resistance, no
narcs, no fear of depth.... I wonder how fast the He resources would be
screwed up.

> I think they would be pretty complex.  The nitrogen and helium would be at
> different partial pressures for each mix (including Nitrox and air), so some
> allowance would have to be made for the differences.
> Mandating a minimum surface interval might cover this (like PADI does for
> Nitrox), but I don't think the other problems will be resolved any time
> soon.

But you addressed a way of to solve this, giving a worst case scenario
to take into account , and coming out with some sort of one letter
effective residual value, at the same time limiting the range of mix to
a standardized one.

-Matthias
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