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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:01:44 +0200
From: mat.voss@t-*.de* (Matthias Voss)
To: Don Burke <donburke56@ne*.ne*>
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: rec trimix


Don Burke schrieb:

> PADI Nitrox, when taught by the book, is probably beyond at least 20% of rec
> divers. 

? Are you saying it is beyond the capacity of learning ? for how much %
, 80 or 20 % ( Would it make that much difference , anyway )


> 
> EA> One now has to come up with a set of 'reductions' that would simplify

> This translates to the "blind faith" method of diving.  It is an invitation
> to disaster.  Nitrox divers are instructed to check their own mix.  Many of
> those barely understand the signifigance of the numbers on the "little magic
> box."  It will be much worse for trimix.

I fully agree.


> The surface interval tables present one big challenge.  On the third
> repetitive dive, we are already walking on thin ice by trying to represent
> multiple compartments with a single letter code.  At least with Nitrox, the
> air surface interval tables (which are really nitrogen tables since oxygen
> isn't an issue) work for every oxygen/nitrogen combination and for the first
> two dives, they are adequate.  Getting a table to represent helium surface
> intervals wouldn't be too hard, but would an OW diver be able to switch back
> and forth?

Would he care to ?



  There would need to be different surface interval tables for
> each combination of helium and nitrogen.


Well, with proper design, such tables could be generated and made
understood. Might look similar to surface intervall/ residual nitrogen
tables.
 
> I'm trying to picture "Lazy Elmer's Diveshop, Tattoo Parlor and Grill" in
> Road Narrows, MI, giving a newbie the right gas when all he knows to ask for
> is "YMCA mix 28/35", or worse yet "SSI mix B."  For some reason, the image
> won't come to me.

I like this picture.


> EA> In the pedagological sense this unifies 'gases',
> > 'tables' & 'decompression' for introcudtory level
> > classes & may b suitable to teach in a 20 h or so OWI
> > class.

> More like 100 h or so.

The usual approach would be putting the students in a "safe" environment
and nursing them , like venting their BCs, reinflating before ascent, 
and so on . Making them believe they achieved something great. Which
opens the purses.

- Matthias
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