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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:48:08 +0200
To: trey@ne*.co* (Trey), <klind@al*.ne*>
From: Hans Petter Roverud <proverud@on*.no*>
Subject: Re: rec trimix
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
At 06:15 AM 10/11/00 -0400, Trey wrote:
>Kent,come on - one hour at 85? On 21% that is barely a deco dive to start
>with. Why would one want to red line the ppo2 to shave a few minutes off of
>what they "think" the deco really is? That is pretty piss poor risk
>management, and basically clam stupid. I never do that , and the fact is I
>do longer cave dives than anyone out there as a matter of routine.  Cobb is
>right on the money here. The risk is in the exposure, not DCS , and for more
>DCS coverage, the deco can be redone - the tox can not be redone, and the
>pulmonary damage of an exposure to red-lined ppo2's takes several weeks to
>fix.

The main problem, as I see it, is the rec community's insistence on 
"no-stop". I played with the hot trimix concept on several dive planners 
and found it pretty hard to avoid deco. In fact, I'd much rather keep doing 
what I do -- bring a small stage with deco gas and accept a 5 - 15 min 
deco. But then, you can't sell this to mainstream sport diving since any 
deco is THE thing to avoid.

I remember in the early 90s when nitrox was new to most of us. We did PO2s 
of 1.6 to avoid deco and I soon found that it was better to go a lower 
oxygen bottom mix and accept a few minutes of deco. Thus, the "hot" nitrox 
was replaced by a lighter blend and we carried deco stages instead. One 
might think that a no-stop dive of EAN 40 to 100' gives an oxygen stress 
similar to EAN 30 at 100' + the EAN 50/oxygen deco required but it doesn't 
feel that way. A high bottom PO2 gives shortness of breath and a tense 
feeling if there's any work involved while a high PO2 for deco is no 
problem. There's more to this than summing up OTU numbers.

As long as sport diving thinks of deco as an emergency rather than as a 
safe landing there will be an incentive to "up" the oxygen of bottom mixes.

regards,

Hans

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