FWIW, the Navy's standards for Helium are (from the US Navy Diving = Manual): ------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------- 4-3.3 Diver's Breathing Helium. Helium used for diver's breathing gas = shall=20 meet Military Specification, MIL-P-27407B Propellant Pressurizing = Agent Helium, Type I Gaseous Grade B, Respirable Helium. The = purity=20 standards are contained in Table4-4. Table 4-4. Diver's Compressed Helium Breathing Purity Requirements. Constituent Specification Helium (percent by volume) 99.997% Moisture (water vapor) 7 ppm (max) Dew Point (not greater than) -78=B0F Hydrocarbons (as Methane) 1 ppm (max) Oxygen 3 ppm (max) Nitrogen + Argon 5 ppm (max) Neon 23 ppm (max) Hydrogen 1 ppm (max) Reference: Military Specification MIL-PRF-27407B ------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------- Acceptable certification of this gas purity is unlikely to be available = with welding grade He. Doesn't mean the He isn't just as good - just = means it's not been documented. =20 Using Navy standards to discuss non-military diving may be comparing = apples and oranges. B.L. Flank -----Original Message----- From: Scott [mailto:scottk@hc*.co*] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 8:00 AM To: Capt JT; techdiver@aquanaut.com; Trey Subject: Re: clarification was: An the beat goes on and on JT wrote: > The > only > > draw back is what the shop has to pay for the He and then it is = past on to > > the diver, if it was not for the "Lawyers" who would surely say it = is > > unsafe in court to make a buck , everyone would be using welding = gas. I think this is a bullshit issue, easily shot in the ass. As far as I know, there is no *law* saying you must use USP gas for = diving, the Navy certainly doesn't. I have gas blender shingles from IANTD and = TDI, and both texts suggest very strongly that USP be used, but I am aware = of no legal requirement. I will concede right now that I could be wrong here, = and if I am, would someone with the dope please post it, code and all. With O2, its remotely possible for a welding shop with crap equipment = (no check valves) and idiots at the torches, to back fill acetylene into an = O2 bottle. Even so, the bottles are evacuated before filling, or we would = have some gas suppliers with holes in their buildings. No such problem = exists with He. He is used as a shield gas for Tungsten Inert Gas welding = (TIG), and is *never* (in my experience) connected to any system that has = another gas connected to it, least of all a flammable gas, as He is inert. Any contaminants in the He would seriously affect weld quality, and since = He is used to weld exotic metals (spelled "$$$$") used mostly in Aerospace, I = have no problems what so ever with using industrial He. The chances of a gas supplier getting sued for selling bad gas, and causing an airplane with = 100 people to fall screaming to their deaths, is much more likely than a = suit involving SCUBA divers. We use ABO and industrial grade He. Scott -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to = `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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