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From: <RDecker388@ao*.co*>
To: <scottk@hc*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Cc: <trey@ne*.co*>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: clarification was: An the beat goes on and on


> Scott,
>
>         Fair enough, I've exchanged ideas, comments and information with
> Jerry for several years.  He seems like a bright fellow with good
approaches
> to diving.  Have yet to have the pleasure of meeting him in person.

Jerry is one of my regular dive buds, and a good freind. Jerry is very
active locally, in the political arena (diving only!) as well.

>     As far as sales pitches go, I don't teach trimix, I don't teach HOTx,
no
> financial gain in it for me one way or the other.  I simply provided links
to
> sites I hoped might contain the information you were looking for.

Understood. I wasnt accusing you, just stating fact. These links are, to me,
simply more illustrative of the *problem* than suggesting a solution.

>     Concerning NAUI's "Extended Range" course, it is virtually impossible
to
> get them to issue a card for that program.  I had a discussion with NAUI
> Tech's leader on this issue sometime back.  Like you, I do not support the
> concept of deep diving on air.  To paraphrase Tim O'Leary, head of NAUI's
> Technical Division, "we had to put that language about availability in
there
> to appease the forces that be.  As long as I'm the director there will be
no
> location in the world recognized as not having helium available."  It
> requires specific approval to run that course and such approval is not
> forthcoming from HQ.

So, basically, they talk a smooth line, but there is nothing at the end of
the talk. Its exactly this type of double talk and bullshit that is driving
people with knowledge straight away.

>     As far as the text on my website about HOTx, it explains what it is.
It
> details its uses.  It even mentions that it has potential for use as a
> no-stop diving gas.  Obviously, for reasons concerning potential liability
> exposure, it suggests seeking training.  Unfortunately, no agency has yet
> "stepped up to pet the pony" in regards to offering training in no-stop
HOTx
> diving outside of the technical training arena.  I suspect that has as
much
> to do with liability insurance coverage for such a course as anything.

I am sure. However, when are we going to quit allowing the Bar Association
and Insurance companies
to define our diving for us? Also, I cant imagine why "they" cant see the
adoption of HOTx as a benefit for safety and liability.

>     Personally, I'd love to see a recreational no-stop HOTx course offered
by
> one of the agnecies.  I would think that if anyone were going to break
into
> that area it would be GUE.

>     Finally, as far as my getting pissed over stuff put up on these lists,
> simply ain't gonna happen.  I take all that with a grain or salt.

It has been my experience, when raising these issues, that the people in the
business of selling full boat trimix training start preaching doom and
death. I am very pleased that you didn't get pissed, and to learn that we
are basically on the same page. The only way the agencies are going to
change is if we start telling them, with our wallets, what we want to buy.
And, what we are no longer willing to accept.

Scott

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