George,
You're sick.


-----Original Message-----
From: Trey [mailto:trey@ne*.co*]
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 11:10 PM
To: Mcinnis, Don; haglandg@to*.co*; john.r.strohm@BI*.co*;
techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: And the beat goes on, and on, and on...


Don, did I slander this dumb fuck or is he a dumb fuck?

Gary, you are an idiot. No way around it. You and the Slob don't like what I
say? Sue me , asshole. You are a lying little moron and have proven it
yourself. Read your own bullshit and then get lost.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mcinnis, Don <Don.Mcinnis@in*.co*>
To: <haglandg@to*.co*>; Trey <trey@ne*.co*>;
<john.r.strohm@BI*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 9:38 AM
Subject: RE: And the beat goes on, and on, and on...


> Gary,
>
> Define "SAFE" below 130 on air for me would you? Just like it's "SAFE" to
be
> out on the interstate after a "few" drinks right? If you don't believe the
> narcosis affects you do a dive to 140 on air and then follow it up with
the
> same dive with some helium mixed in and you will KNOW the difference.
Diving
> impaired is like driving impaired, just because you get away with it for
> awhile doesn't mean that you should be doing it.
>
> As for Gilliam, his position on deep air as well as his track record of
> doing it is common knowledge. There are many people who are lucky enough
to
> have gotten away with it that you can ask why you shouldn't be doing it.
> There have been enough don't do deep air poster children (Rob Palmer comes
> to mind but there are countless others) that have proven that the "thrill"
> of deep air isn't worth the price (your life) if something happens. This
> death becomes even more stupid when you realize that the dive could have
> been done safely on trimix.
>
> Wake up and breathe the He.
>
> Don
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Hagland [mailto:haglandg@to*.co*]
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 8:56 PM
> To: Trey; john.r.strohm@BI*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: RE: And the beat goes on, and on, and on...
>
>
> George,
> You are wrong. Am continually amazed how you can slander folks you don't
> know.  Have met Gilliam twice in my life at DEMA's in '95 and '96.  Am
sure
> that he doesn't remember me.  Do not have any connections with him or his
> training agencies.  Although I'd like to go back to Truk someday, am not
> going with him or his group, therefore have no reason to sucker anyone
else
> into the trip. Diving in Truk isn't particularly difficult.  The water is
> warm and clear, there are no currents, and most wrecks are at moderate
> depths with few below 130 - 140 FSW.  It's great diving, but am not sure
> that you need to go the incredible expense and effort of bringing in
helium
> to dive what others have been doing safely on air for years.
> Gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trey [mailto:trey@ne*.co*]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 9:28 AM
> To: haglandg@to*.co*; john.r.strohm@BI*.co*;
> techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: Re: And the beat goes on, and on, and on...
>
>
> Bullshit.   JJ ran a trip to the Britannic and got the helium there, he
ran
> a trip to the mountains of Turkey and got it there, Parker Turner got it
to
> the Bahamas in 1984 to dive some deep caves there. You guys are so fucking
> stupid it is ridiculous.
>
> Let me guess, you are a dive instructor who is going for free at the
expense
> of the poor dumb assholes you sucker into this Gillaim situation. Am I
right
> or wrong, Gary?
>
> Nobody needs you guys. Dumb and a parasite.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gary Hagland <haglandg@to*.co*>
> To: <john.r.strohm@BI*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 11:35 AM
> Subject: RE: And the beat goes on, and on, and on...
>
>
> > John,
> > Except for the San Francisco Maru and the Oite, the other notable wrecks
> in
> > Truk are at 140 FSW or above.  The deck of the San Francisco is at 150'
> and
> > the Oite is above 200. Conditions are ideal in that there are no
currents
> > and the water is usually very clear.  The guides are competent.  There's
> no
> > helium to be had because you're pretty much at the end of the world,
> > although I suppose you could ship some in from Guam at a hefty price. I
> > would caution folks to think very carefully about diving the Oite, but
the
> > others, including the San Francisco, are within the range of compressed
> air
> > diving.
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: john.r.strohm@BI*.co* [mailto:john.r.strohm@BI*.co*]
> > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 1:59 AM
> > To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > Subject: And the beat goes on, and on, and on...
> >
> >
> > Check out the lower half of page 95 of the October 2000 issue of
Rodale's
> > "SCUBA Diving".
> >
> > This is "An RSD Dive Expedition", to Truk Lagoon, aboard the "Odyssey".
> > Special features of the trip include "Free training and supervision in
> > extended-range diving and decompression techniques (if desired) from
Bret
> > Gilliam, president of Technical Diving International".
> >
> > Later in the pitch they say they are offering double tanks with
dual-valve
> > isolation manifolds.  I guess that's an improvement.  When they had
Mitch
> > Skaggs doing it, they were using independent doubles.
> >
> > Notably absent from the ad is any mention whatsoever of trimix.  They
also
> > don't say what deco mixes are available.  Previously, they have used
> 80/20.
> >
> > And, if that wasn't enough, and by golly don't you think it ought to be,
> on
> > page 6, in the masthead for the magazine, we find: "Technical Diving
> > Editor: Bret Gilliam".
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