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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: "Scott Stitt" <seatech@id*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: And the beat goes on, and on, and on...
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 06:01:07 -0400
Look, you asshole ,Andrew tried to do a trip there and the fucking boat
would not allow helium and cited Gilliam as the "authority".

----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Stitt <seatech@id*.co*>
To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: And the beat goes on, and on, and on...


> What are you implying is "bullshit"? I said the gas can be had in Chuuk
for a
> price. I'd like to no more details of how JJ got the gas to the Britannic
and
> Turkey. I'd imagine that a great deal of sponsorhip and "comp" made it
possible.
> If not, I'm sure that Truk charter operators would be very interested in
any
> advice JJ could offer them to make helium and therefore trimix commercialy
> viable to their customers. If it can be done I'm sure they will do it. In
the
> meantime the only reason that helium is not available in Chuuk is because
it is
> cost prohibitive to do so and not because of the big, bad, evil Brett
Gilliam
> and to imply anything else is "bullshit".
>
> Trey wrote:
>
> > bullshit JJ ran a trip to the Britannic and got it there. He ran a tip
to
> > the mountains of Turkey and got it there.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Scott Stitt <seatech@id*.co*>
> > To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
> > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 7:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: And the beat goes on, and on, and on...
> >
> > > George, I'm no fan of Brett Gilliams either but the absence of helium
in
> > Truk
> > > Lagoon is strictly a matter of logistics not philosophy. I didn't
realize
> > that
> > > there were places as isolated and primitive as Chuuk left in the
world. I
> > was on
> > > the "Truk Agressor's" tek week last spring. (No Brett Gilliam). The
cost
> > of
> > > shipping one K-cylinder of 02 or helium to Chuuk is over $500 U.S.
Nitrox
> > is
> > > available only because the Agressor produces it's own using a membrane
> > system.
> > > If you can afford it, you can dive trimix in Chuuk. If not, you have
to
> > choose
> > > between doing 'deep' air or not going at all. Most of Truk's 'tek'
wrecks
> > are in
> > > less than 180' of water with most point of interest being in the 150'
> > range.
> > > Visibility - 200' plus. Water temp. nearly 90F. No current. I went and
> > would do
> > > so again. I did one dive on destroyer shipwreck 'Oite' to 200'. In
> > hindsite I
> > > would not do so again.
> > > However, I can't imagine anyone in Gilliam's position actually
endorsing
> > deep
> > > air dives to 200-feet. Definately a problem
> > > Regards
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > Trey wrote:
> > >
> > > > John, I think this is the boat that does not ALLOW trimix, and told
some
> > > > friends of mine that Bret Gillaim said "you do not need trimix to
200
> > feet"
> > > > and this fat slob is out there teaching diving and running a
"training"
> > > > agency. This guy IS the problem in diving right now - the worst
> > influence I
> > > > have ever seen in any sport ever.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <john.r.strohm@BI*.co*>
> > > > To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2000 12:58 PM
> > > > Subject: And the beat goes on, and on, and on...
> > > >
> > > > > Check out the lower half of page 95 of the October 2000 issue of
> > Rodale's
> > > > > "SCUBA Diving".
> > > > >
> > > > > This is "An RSD Dive Expedition", to Truk Lagoon, aboard the
> > "Odyssey".
> > > > > Special features of the trip include "Free training and
supervision in
> > > > > extended-range diving and decompression techniques (if desired)
from
> > Bret
> > > > > Gilliam, president of Technical Diving International".
> > > > >
> > > > > Later in the pitch they say they are offering double tanks with
> > dual-valve
> > > > > isolation manifolds.  I guess that's an improvement.  When they
had
> > Mitch
> > > > > Skaggs doing it, they were using independent doubles.
> > > > >
> > > > > Notably absent from the ad is any mention whatsoever of trimix.
They
> > also
> > > > > don't say what deco mixes are available.  Previously, they have
used
> > > > 80/20.
> > > > >
> > > > > And, if that wasn't enough, and by golly don't you think it ought
to
> > be,
> > > > on
> > > > > page 6, in the masthead for the magazine, we find: "Technical
Diving
> > > > > Editor: Bret Gilliam".
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