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I hate wasting time with this list, but I need
to dispel some bullshit being spread here about the
WKPP.
This idiot "guy" is the worst I have seen on
here yet for not knowing what he is talking about,
and outright lying about the WKPP. Obviously, there
are some seriously bitter people out there, and I am
disappointed that many of you have failed to nail
this idiot as bullshit from the start.
First of all, the WKPP went through years of
trying all kinds of gas combinations with
professional assistance. We started out with high ox
bottom gasses and low helium, and we did our deco on
air , then varying combinations of nitroxes from 30%
to 60% and oxygen at various depths. Gas volume has
never been an issue with WKPP divers, and the
concept of blowing a little air on top of perfectly
good oxygen to make a few more cubic feet was too
stupid to contemplate relative to maintaining the
oxygen window at the shallow ending depths of the
deco and saving gas that way - but then we dive and
the "guys" clearly do not. Using a gas that has a
high ppo2 at one depth ( 33 feet) and is basically
worthless at 20 and 10 following serious dive
exposures is not our style.
Using high ppo2's is a shallow-only practice by the
WKPP: we do not use 1.6 for deco deep due to the
risk of a spike tox following and extended stay at
any ppo2 above normoxic combined with the stress of
the dives. A tox at 190 would be a death sentence
due to the deco obligation ahead , whereas a tox at
20 feet means you are likely mostly decompressed
anyway, that you are well enough oxygenated to
survive drowning and recovery, and that you can be
recompressed quite easily without major damage.
These are things that as Project Director I have
MASTERED, and I will not have some pussy neophyte or
newly anointed Tom Mouth graduate from idiocy school
with no knowledge or experience sit in the peanut
gallery lying and yapping at me like a cocker
spaniel.
Where we are now on deco gasses is as follows: from
240 feet we use 18X45, from 190 19X35, from 120 we
use 35X35, from 70 feet 50%, from 20 feet 100% or
100% at 30 in a habitat. Back gasses are run at very
low ppo2s and high helium due to the lengths of the
dives.
We break from deco gas every 20 for five and go to
the lowest oxygen gas we can breathe. When on
oxygen, we go on for 12 off for 6. The reasons are
to 1) prevent tox, 2) prevent damage, and 3) , to
speed the deco. The speed is accomplished by three
mechanisms; 1) the lungs do not go ahead and add
layers of cells to protect themselves if the
exposure is kept in short shots of high ppo2, so the
gas passes as it should. 2) the swelling and
asthma-like reaction of the lungs is prevented,
halted and reversed, so the gassing is more
efficient, and 3) the vaso constricting effect of
the high ppo2 is offset enough to open up the
vessels in the tissues ( and the capillary beds of
the lungs) for more rapid offgassing. This alternate
switching back and forth works better than staying
at high ppo2, is safer , reduces all of the other
problems, and creates none. This has since gained
recognition as being the correct method, despite the
bullshit from the constant ppo2 rebreather bounce
diving crowd who think they save three minutes of
deco on their weenie dives by maintaining a high
setpoint. A double laugh.
These are things that the idiots don't get. This has
been not only demonstrated in practice by the WKPP,
but observed first hand by the military using marked
gasses and body scopes to watch the effect. Go argue
with them. It turns out that what Bill Mee and I
said and developed years ago and practiced is 100%
C O R R E C T.
The oxygen window is a very real thing. In its
simplest terms it describes ppo2, in its most
elaborate terms it describes why a person like me
who has a massive VO2 max can offgas more
effectively than most, and why I can eliminate all
traces of bubbles within 30 minutes of ANY dive I do
on Doppler. The person who verified that and
personally took my Doppler readings on site after
Wakulla exposures is none other than Dr Johansen who
wrote the fucking book on Doppler ( see Physiology
and Medicine of diving).
Also, for a full description of the Window, see
Physiology and Medicine of diving, or go to the
archives and look up any post by Bill Mee on the
subject or on decompression. He describes it better
than anyone ever has, and has been side by side with
me in developing the concepts, while Jarrod and I
have done the self testing and had the blood and
Doppler work done and then gone on to have the
entire team try it, while JJ has then developed his
own team to put this into software form and make it
available to everyone along with a list that makes
the developers available for questions. All of my
serious dive profiles and decompressions are on the
WKPP.org web site in detail, and all of our dives
are on the GUE.com site under "WKPP". Go see them
for yourselves.
I think it is a fucking CRIME that idiots like Guy
are even on this list, that they lie and spread
false information, misinformation and yap with
arrogance while looking like blithering idiots to
the pros on here, and unfortunately maybe
influencing some who are trying to learn to miss the
boat here. I really wish some of you who know better
would shut this kind of idiot up fast before he gets
a chance to mislead some new person with bullshit
and out right lies. Again, thanks to Tom Mouth for
this one - another fine IANTD product.
Whatever you do in diving just ask these questions:
Is the person telling me something doing it or is
he a yapping lapdog? Is the person making a
recommendation in the business or is does he answer
to nobody?
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