Im soory im so late to the party, but i have been having some email problems,
im writing this from the web based mail reader at my isp and it takes three
minutes to change emails while reading. 

Anyway Kent is mostly correct, the blue glove is an excellent glove with a
moderate degree of abrasion resistance, you can grip an anchor line or wooden
opbjact underwater without a puncture, unlike the orange glove which has had
more holes than a pin cushion every time i have used them. The one failure i
have heard of was a friend who loaned a pair i had sold him to another friend
who ripped them while digging inside the San Diego in July< what he was
doing wearing dry gloves in july while digging inside a federaly protected
shipwreck and a us naval war grave is another matter> anyway the nature of the
failure was a large slice from thumb to pinky across the palm, apparently from
a sharp plate or beam<linear surface> Personally i have used them when
setting the hook in winter, 30-40 degree water, and found them excellent, i
have had my hands undewr beams reaching for lines and such without failures. 



 all three gloves are made by helios in england, i also believe they are
marketed on the european continent as nordic blue gloves. 


the oragne was made for contaminated water tending of surface supply lines, dui
nolonger purchases the gloves made from helios but rather makes their own, as a
consequence dui has a normalm wrist seal like their normal suit seal, the
helios seal is a much heavier commercial grade seal, one id like to have on my
suit as well. the yellow glove is covered with little splines, t was made for
work in nuke plants, it is not rated as having thermal protection below 55
degree water temp.

i had been buying them from MarVel underwater supply in woodlyne nj tel 856 962
8719.

I would think othere commercial diving suppliers like jack villas could also
obtain them. 

The blue glove is excellent standing alone. the dui attached glove system has
no provision for a wrist seal under the glove, so if you puncture their fraglie
glove its game over. not a smart solution in my opinion.

si tech, the drysuit valve company has a ring system thats allows both a seal
and a glove, but both are held by the ring, so if<when> the ring fails,the
glove and the wrist seal fail. it also requires permanent attachment with glue.

all the other ring systems i have seen are too bizarro, usually requiring a
propriatetary component, that is expensive.

THe best way is to have two seperate seals, so if the glove fails, you change
to a wet glove carried as backup, or if the dive and deco is short < and it
should be regardless if the water is cold enuff to actually need dry gloves
from thermal pro standpoint> then you just tough it out.  

It is very difficult to repair the wrist seal effectively on any of these, the
dui dry suit seal has a taper that makes it difficult to apply to a glove, if
you ask their repair techs, they will tell you the factory discourages dry
glove repair. 

al marvelli

------Original Message------
From: "Kent Lind" <klind@al*.ne*>
To: Cam Banks <cam@ca*.co*>, ba_diving@li*.be*.co*, Techdiver Mailing List
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: August 31, 2000 3:00:58 PM GMT
Subject: RE: dry gloves, one more time


Al was probably talking about the Xerotech gloves made by Helios, a company
in England.  You can also get them from MarVel in New Jersey.  I mail
ordered a few pair from MarVel this past spring.

They have their own seal on the wrist so you don't need rings.  They come in
three varieties:

Orange:  This is the regular glove and looks just like the gloves sold by
DUI

Blue:  This is the heavy duty glove.  It has thicker rubber and is
triple-dipped or something.  I use it for wreck diving and catching king
crab in winter.

Yellow:  This is for handling chemicals.

Kent Lind
Juneau, Alaska


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cam Banks [mailto:cam@ca*.co*]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 11:40 PM
> To: ba_diving@li*.be*.co*; Techdiver Mailing List
> Subject: dry gloves, one more time
>
>
> Kay,
>
> I am getting ready to switch to dry gloves.  Someone, I believe it was Al
> Marvelli tested a bunch at DEMA and said that the "Xerpetech gloves" were
> the best.  He went on to give a source,  but my computer crashed
> and I don't
> have it anymore.
>
> I guess I could get a ring system added to my DUI but most have advised
> against this (does the arm flood if you blow a glove or not; I'm
> not sure?)
> Anyway, definitely harder to get into the gear on a  boat with a ring
> system.
>
> So, can any of you recommend dry gloves without a ring system that hold up
> well.  Al, where the hell are you?  Thanks.
>
> Cam
>
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