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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 00:40:19 -0400
From: Al Marvelli <ajmarve@ba*.ne*>
To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
CC: Paul Braunbehrens <Bakalite@ba*.co*>, CaptnDale@ao*.co*,
     shimell@se*.co*, einar.hagen@un*.co*, thomas@ha*.ne*,
     techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Ditching the $800 light
this entire conversation is too absurd.

all dive gear is disposable.

go back and look at what punctuation that sentence ends with. I have spent
approximately 27,000 us dollars< i have a spreadsheet from my receipts> on
gear
gas and training to date and I have learned one thing for sure, there is nothing
in that pile worth my life.

when you can no longer breathe you go up.

try some freediving to see how long you have to deco when all your gas is gone.
see how long you have ditch before your leg muscles< the largest in your
body>
scream for a breath. see how long you have before you begin to have the
immeasurable sadness that comes from thinking about all you will miss, that
comes
just before you give up and die.

this is open water one type stuff people. flush out the headgear.

later,

Al Marvelli

Jim Cobb wrote:

> "Downward vortex"? Oh, come on Paul!, this is Techdiver, not recdiver!
>
> On Techdiver you have a deco obligation, shooting to the surface is simply
> not an option! You don't even plan for it you idiots! Downward vortex???
> Goddamn, now I've heard everything...
>
> Hey, here's a new TDI techicule divving rule for you techicule divvers out
> dere...  "When technicule divving, please endivvor to a-void divving in
> areas where there are upward, downward, time or space vorticules".
>
> Jumping Jesus, "downward vortex", what next, giant squid???
>
>    Jim
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>
> > From: Paul Braunbehrens <Bakalite@ba*.co*>
> > Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:25:46 -0700
> > To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, <CaptnDale@ao*.co*>,
> > <shimell@se*.co*>, <einar.hagen@un*.co*>, <thomas@ha*.ne*>
> > Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > Subject: Re: Ditching the $800 light
> >
> > Jim Cobb wrote:
> >>
> >> And you know, I don't regret a thing. I can't believe that there is
> >> discussion about $800 or $8000 when it comes down to a life or death
> >> situation.
> >
> >
> > Jim, I think you misunderstand my original comment.  No one is going
> > to worry about $800 or even 100000000 when it comes to their life.
> > That's not the problem.  Let me give you a hypothetical situation.
> > Let's say you are diving, and you are caught in a downward vortex.
> > You're going down, but you think you'll probably be able to swim up.
> > You try for a while, and then realize you can't.  Now you think "it's
> > life or death, I better drop my light".  Maybe you make it, maybe you
> > don't.  If it was a weight belt, at the first sign of trouble you'd
> > be saying "who cares about a weightbelt, I'm not even going to think
> > twice about dropping it", and you'd drop it immediately.
> >
> > Maybe I didn't make myself clear.  What I'm saying is that you're
> > more likely to drop something that doesn't cost an arm and a leg,
> > then something that does.  There are plenty of possible scenarios
> > that could be life or death, but just start out as a small problem.
> > This is what I'm talking about.
> >
> > Whether or not you actually need ditcheable weight is another
> > discussion.  With my Pro 6 it's probably not enough to be worth
> > dithing anyway.
> >
> > Cheers.
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> >
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