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Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 13:22:26 -0400
To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>,
     Paul Braunbehrens , ,
     , ,
    
From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
Subject: Re: Ditching the $800 light
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Jim, if I drop the light, you get a new one. Its just that simple.

For those that wonder what's up , I am using Cobbs light this weekend while 
mine is being repaired.

At 11:28 AM 8/25/00 -0400, Jim Cobb wrote:
>AAA, JT do me a favor, if you need to drop the canister light this weekend,
>make sure you send up on a lift bag, OK buddy?
>
>   Jim
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> > From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
> > Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:39:53 -0400
> > To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, Paul Braunbehrens
> > <Bakalite@ba*.co*>, <CaptnDale@ao*.co*>, <shimell@se*.co*>,
> > <einar.hagen@un*.co*>, <thomas@ha*.ne*>
> > Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > Subject: Re: Ditching the $800 light
> >
> > Jim I have been following this useless tread here and most of these people
> > just do not get it, when things start to "GO SOUTH" on a dive the risk
> > factor takes a big jump, you usely are just one or 2 decisions away from
> > what could be a fatal mistake. The light, scooter or what ever is a gone
> > piece of shit IMO, the weightbelt is usely more trouble for a techdiver.
> > Most Techies who use them often put them on and then place the crotch strap
> > over them. IMO the  diver will be in near panic when he drops his weight
> > belt and with the strap over it, it will hang on it and the crotch strap
> > must also be undone. This is just more trouble for the dive buddy if he is
> > trying to save your life (I had to deal with that when I recovered the body
> > of Charlie Mcgurr, it took me a minute to find out why he did not lift up
> > when I popped his weightbelt).   By this time, if the diver has even
> > thought about this it could be OVER.
> > Use a vee weight, be weighted correctly, stick to your dive plan, if you
> > must worry about the cost of the light, clip your wreck reel line to it ,
> > pull it up later, that will also help when you become positive near the
> > surface and control your accent. Self control at depth is very hard to
> > maintain when something is going wrong, if the problem is not solved on the
> > first try, panic will start to sit in, the stress level will be so high you
> > cannot think straight. Make up your mind before this happens as to what you
> > will do, this stuff is not like "on the job training". Get it right or
> > don't get in the water.
> >
> > At 09:48 PM 8/24/00 -0400, Jim Cobb wrote:
> >> "Downward vortex"? Oh, come on Paul!, this is Techdiver, not recdiver!
> >>
> >> On Techdiver you have a deco obligation, shooting to the surface is simply
> >> not an option! You don't even plan for it you idiots! Downward vortex???
> >> Goddamn, now I've heard everything...
> >>
> >> Hey, here's a new TDI techicule divving rule for you techicule divvers out
> >> dere...  "When technicule divving, please endivvor to a-void divving in
> >> areas where there are upward, downward, time or space vorticules".
> >>
> >> Jumping Jesus, "downward vortex", what next, giant squid???
> >>
> >> Jim
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> >>
> >>> From: Paul Braunbehrens <Bakalite@ba*.co*>
> >>> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:25:46 -0700
> >>> To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, <CaptnDale@ao*.co*>,
> >>> <shimell@se*.co*>, <einar.hagen@un*.co*>,
> >> <thomas@ha*.ne*>
> >>> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: Ditching the $800 light
> >>>
> >>> Jim Cobb wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> And you know, I don't regret a thing. I can't believe that there is
> >>>> discussion about $800 or $8000 when it comes down to a life or death
> >>>> situation.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jim, I think you misunderstand my original comment.  No one is going
> >>> to worry about $800 or even 100000000 when it comes to their life.
> >>> That's not the problem.  Let me give you a hypothetical situation.
> >>> Let's say you are diving, and you are caught in a downward vortex.
> >>> You're going down, but you think you'll probably be able to swim up.
> >>> You try for a while, and then realize you can't.  Now you think "it's
> >>> life or death, I better drop my light".  Maybe you make it, maybe you
> >>> don't.  If it was a weight belt, at the first sign of trouble you'd
> >>> be saying "who cares about a weightbelt, I'm not even going to think
> >>> twice about dropping it", and you'd drop it immediately.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe I didn't make myself clear.  What I'm saying is that you're
> >>> more likely to drop something that doesn't cost an arm and a leg,
> >>> then something that does.  There are plenty of possible scenarios
> >>> that could be life or death, but just start out as a small problem.
> >>> This is what I'm talking about.
> >>>
> >>> Whether or not you actually need ditcheable weight is another
> >>> discussion.  With my Pro 6 it's probably not enough to be worth
> >>> dithing anyway.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers.
> >>> --
> >>> Paul Braunbehrens mailto:Bakalite@ba*.co*
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> >>>
> >>
> >>
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> > "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in the
> > water"
> > Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
> > Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
> > Email     captjt@mi*.co*
> >
> >
> >

"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in the 
water"
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Email     captjt@mi*.co*


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