Jim I have been following this useless tread here and most of these people 
just do not get it, when things start to "GO SOUTH" on a dive the risk 
factor takes a big jump, you usely are just one or 2 decisions away from 
what could be a fatal mistake. The light, scooter or what ever is a gone 
piece of shit IMO, the weightbelt is usely more trouble for a techdiver. 
Most Techies who use them often put them on and then place the crotch strap 
over them. IMO the  diver will be in near panic when he drops his weight 
belt and with the strap over it, it will hang on it and the crotch strap 
must also be undone. This is just more trouble for the dive buddy if he is 
trying to save your life (I had to deal with that when I recovered the body 
of Charlie Mcgurr, it took me a minute to find out why he did not lift up 
when I popped his weightbelt).   By this time, if the diver has even 
thought about this it could be OVER.
Use a vee weight, be weighted correctly, stick to your dive plan, if you 
must worry about the cost of the light, clip your wreck reel line to it , 
pull it up later, that will also help when you become positive near the 
surface and control your accent. Self control at depth is very hard to 
maintain when something is going wrong, if the problem is not solved on the 
first try, panic will start to sit in, the stress level will be so high you 
cannot think straight. Make up your mind before this happens as to what you 
will do, this stuff is not like "on the job training". Get it right or 
don't get in the water.

   At 09:48 PM 8/24/00 -0400, Jim Cobb wrote:
>"Downward vortex"? Oh, come on Paul!, this is Techdiver, not recdiver!
>
>On Techdiver you have a deco obligation, shooting to the surface is simply
>not an option! You don't even plan for it you idiots! Downward vortex???
>Goddamn, now I've heard everything...
>
>Hey, here's a new TDI techicule divving rule for you techicule divvers out
>dere...  "When technicule divving, please endivvor to a-void divving in
>areas where there are upward, downward, time or space vorticules".
>
>Jumping Jesus, "downward vortex", what next, giant squid???
>
>    Jim
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> > From: Paul Braunbehrens <Bakalite@ba*.co*>
> > Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:25:46 -0700
> > To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, <CaptnDale@ao*.co*>,
> > <shimell@se*.co*>, <einar.hagen@un*.co*>, 
> <thomas@ha*.ne*>
> > Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > Subject: Re: Ditching the $800 light
> >
> > Jim Cobb wrote:
> >>
> >> And you know, I don't regret a thing. I can't believe that there is
> >> discussion about $800 or $8000 when it comes down to a life or death
> >> situation.
> >
> >
> > Jim, I think you misunderstand my original comment.  No one is going
> > to worry about $800 or even 100000000 when it comes to their life.
> > That's not the problem.  Let me give you a hypothetical situation.
> > Let's say you are diving, and you are caught in a downward vortex.
> > You're going down, but you think you'll probably be able to swim up.
> > You try for a while, and then realize you can't.  Now you think "it's
> > life or death, I better drop my light".  Maybe you make it, maybe you
> > don't.  If it was a weight belt, at the first sign of trouble you'd
> > be saying "who cares about a weightbelt, I'm not even going to think
> > twice about dropping it", and you'd drop it immediately.
> >
> > Maybe I didn't make myself clear.  What I'm saying is that you're
> > more likely to drop something that doesn't cost an arm and a leg,
> > then something that does.  There are plenty of possible scenarios
> > that could be life or death, but just start out as a small problem.
> > This is what I'm talking about.
> >
> > Whether or not you actually need ditcheable weight is another
> > discussion.  With my Pro 6 it's probably not enough to be worth
> > dithing anyway.
> >
> > Cheers.
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> >
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