AAA, JT do me a favor, if you need to drop the canister light this weekend,
make sure you send up on a lift bag, OK buddy?

  Jim
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> From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
> Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:39:53 -0400
> To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, Paul Braunbehrens
> <Bakalite@ba*.co*>, <CaptnDale@ao*.co*>, <shimell@se*.co*>,
> <einar.hagen@un*.co*>, <thomas@ha*.ne*>
> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Subject: Re: Ditching the $800 light
> 
> Jim I have been following this useless tread here and most of these people
> just do not get it, when things start to "GO SOUTH" on a dive the risk
> factor takes a big jump, you usely are just one or 2 decisions away from
> what could be a fatal mistake. The light, scooter or what ever is a gone
> piece of shit IMO, the weightbelt is usely more trouble for a techdiver.
> Most Techies who use them often put them on and then place the crotch strap
> over them. IMO the  diver will be in near panic when he drops his weight
> belt and with the strap over it, it will hang on it and the crotch strap
> must also be undone. This is just more trouble for the dive buddy if he is
> trying to save your life (I had to deal with that when I recovered the body
> of Charlie Mcgurr, it took me a minute to find out why he did not lift up
> when I popped his weightbelt).   By this time, if the diver has even
> thought about this it could be OVER.
> Use a vee weight, be weighted correctly, stick to your dive plan, if you
> must worry about the cost of the light, clip your wreck reel line to it ,
> pull it up later, that will also help when you become positive near the
> surface and control your accent. Self control at depth is very hard to
> maintain when something is going wrong, if the problem is not solved on the
> first try, panic will start to sit in, the stress level will be so high you
> cannot think straight. Make up your mind before this happens as to what you
> will do, this stuff is not like "on the job training". Get it right or
> don't get in the water.
> 
> At 09:48 PM 8/24/00 -0400, Jim Cobb wrote:
>> "Downward vortex"? Oh, come on Paul!, this is Techdiver, not recdiver!
>> 
>> On Techdiver you have a deco obligation, shooting to the surface is simply
>> not an option! You don't even plan for it you idiots! Downward vortex???
>> Goddamn, now I've heard everything...
>> 
>> Hey, here's a new TDI techicule divving rule for you techicule divvers out
>> dere...  "When technicule divving, please endivvor to a-void divving in
>> areas where there are upward, downward, time or space vorticules".
>> 
>> Jumping Jesus, "downward vortex", what next, giant squid???
>> 
>> Jim
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>>> From: Paul Braunbehrens <Bakalite@ba*.co*>
>>> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:25:46 -0700
>>> To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, <CaptnDale@ao*.co*>,
>>> <shimell@se*.co*>, <einar.hagen@un*.co*>,
>> <thomas@ha*.ne*>
>>> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Ditching the $800 light
>>> 
>>> Jim Cobb wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> And you know, I don't regret a thing. I can't believe that there is
>>>> discussion about $800 or $8000 when it comes down to a life or death
>>>> situation.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jim, I think you misunderstand my original comment.  No one is going
>>> to worry about $800 or even 100000000 when it comes to their life.
>>> That's not the problem.  Let me give you a hypothetical situation.
>>> Let's say you are diving, and you are caught in a downward vortex.
>>> You're going down, but you think you'll probably be able to swim up.
>>> You try for a while, and then realize you can't.  Now you think "it's
>>> life or death, I better drop my light".  Maybe you make it, maybe you
>>> don't.  If it was a weight belt, at the first sign of trouble you'd
>>> be saying "who cares about a weightbelt, I'm not even going to think
>>> twice about dropping it", and you'd drop it immediately.
>>> 
>>> Maybe I didn't make myself clear.  What I'm saying is that you're
>>> more likely to drop something that doesn't cost an arm and a leg,
>>> then something that does.  There are plenty of possible scenarios
>>> that could be life or death, but just start out as a small problem.
>>> This is what I'm talking about.
>>> 
>>> Whether or not you actually need ditcheable weight is another
>>> discussion.  With my Pro 6 it's probably not enough to be worth
>>> dithing anyway.
>>> 
>>> Cheers.
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>> 
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