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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 13:44:08 -0700
From: "David M. Thiesfeld" <david@cw*.co*>
Subject: Re: Tec instuctors was: Lost deco gas - stops adjustments
To: List - Technical Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Organization: Central Washington Scuba Center
Don't forget that NAUI tec has some good ones also, a few who come to mind
are:

Billy Deans
Joel Silverstein  joelsilverstein@wo*.at*.ne*
Tim O Leary Nauitec@ao*.co*
Bob Decker  RDecker388@ao*.co*


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David M. Thiesfeld

----- Original Message -----
From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
To: Ryan McNabb <longrifles@ya*.co*>
Cc: List - Technical Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: Lost deco gas - stops adjustments


>
> -
>
> Ryan, while there may be good IANTD or TDI
> instructors, these poor guys are subject to the
> stupidity of the "standards" of their leaders ( pause
> while I wipe off the screen).
>
> For instance, JJ used to be an IANTD instructor when
> that dumb fuck Mouth required "deep ai"r as a
> prerequisite for trimix. Obvoiusly, JJ did not do
> that, but that is JJ - most of these guys are
> terrified of Mouth and Gilliam, and will teach you
> what they are told to teach, and some ( most ) of that
> is so stupid as to be criminal in my opinion.
>
> Why bother with idots? Go to GUE.
>
>
> >
> >So, where do I go as a new diver to get the correct
> education
> >once my experience level is up to technical diving?
> Where is
> >mixed gas diving and decompression taught correctly,
> and by
> >whom?  Is GUE the gold standard?  Are there good
> instructors in
> >the TDI or IANTD?  I keep hearing that I need to find
> good
> >instructors and not worry about what organization
> they are
> >affiliated with, but on this list I seem to pick up
> vibes that
> >there are systemic problems with certain
> organizations that
> >should be avoided.  I don't ever want to un-learn
> anything.  I
> >want to learn it correctly, the first time.  I don't
> want a
> >backlog of bad ideas and bad decisions to give myself
> >"perspecive" or any of that crap.  So where do I go?
> >
> >My dive shop here is headed by a very intelligent and
> extremely
> >experienced technical diver and he and his
> instructors will be
> >my first step, but I don't want to waste my time with
> SSI's
> >"Deep Diving" or Nitrox classes if I can drive a few
> hours to
> >the coast and get the real deal.
> >
> >Thanks for your expertise.  People give you shit
> because they
> >don't want to hear that they're wrong, but as an
> infantry
> >veteran and an ICU nurse I know both the horror of
> death and the
> >gratitude we should feel to the person who tells us
> to STFU and
> >listen.  Such people are lifesavers.  By their logic
> Drill
> >Instructors would be more effective if they were nice
> guys who
> >never raised their voices and protected everyone's
> ego.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Ryan McNabb
> >
> >=====


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