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Your entire stupid argument is based on this one point: -yanks your primary, it breaks, what does he do next. Breaks? What breaks? Does it disintegrate in your hand due to some mysterious plastic-eating microbe? When does a 1st break by just holding it? What are the odds of a 1st falling apart in your hand this exact moment? I will tell you, IHOP, zip, zero, nada. The only time I have ever seen a 1st break is when a guy slammed his doubles on a G500 while sitting down on a bench and smashed it to pieces. If he had been rigged DIR this would not have happened. Why are you dogging this stupid point over something which is not going to happen? Do you wake up at night in a cold, dark sweat, with visions of 1st stages blowing up in your feeble head? So, to compensate for this wild, improbable scenario you propose to introduce a major failure point. Either you are stupid as hell or you are just being an asshole. You need to take the cotton out of your ears and put it in your mouth. The point here, boys and girls, is that if all you can do is sit around conjuring up dozens of useless dioramas in which you predict your horrifying death by a thousand knife cuts, you will never get in the water. Which seems to be the case for IHOP pancake boy here. Jim ------------------------------------------------------------------- Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/ > From: <IHOPPOET@ao*.co*> > Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:22:51 EDT > To: trey@ne*.co* > Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com > Subject: Re: backup reg - why, was and still is logic > > In a message dated 8/16/00 11:01:17 AM Central Daylight Time, trey@ne*.co* > writes: > > << Go fuck yourself. Take it up with me in person, > asshole. >>> > Trey, you accused me of having the sole intention of insulting you and your > little cave project, when in reality, I have only insulted you, in response > to your personal attacks on me, and you take every chance you can get to > insult me, I am posting what you said to me in private, because you didn't > have the balls to say it in public. > > Back to the topic at hand. > > Your buddy runs out of air, maybe he is an idiot, or maybe something > unforeseen happened he panics swims to you as fast as he can, and as hard as > he can yanks your primary out of your mouth. > > Yes, it might be unlikely that someone would let them selves run out of air, > but it has happened. It is not unlikely that a second stage can break if a > panicked diver yanks it away from you. > > now lets say it happens. I have been told DIR proper thing to do is switch > out regs. OK lets use logic here. > > Buddy runs out of air, so with no air he panics swims to you as fast as he > can, grabs your reg it breaks, is he gonna wait calmly while you switch out > the regs? We all know the answer to that one. > so what are we left with? Buddy breathing. > > So now he runs out of air panics swims to you as fast as he can holding his > breath, yanks your primary, it breaks, what does he do next. I would think he > would grab for your back up, yanking it and you to him. at this point you > stay calm and jerk yourself and your reg away from him, and luckily it didn't > break, you take it over your head get a good breath and hand it off. By now > he is probably passed out, and most likely dead. > > Now you say you must permanently attach the bungee to your back up, because > if you don't you will have to find it. That's not true. You can loop the > bungee, so it will stay in current, or any other circumstance, but when > someone pulls on it, it will come out of the bungee. Now you can buddy > breath, he has air and is calmed down a bit, and you can change out the regs. > > so lets recap the past 24 hours. > > I send an email agreeing with you on the compass, I agreed with dir on bottle > markings, I asked a question about the back up, and gave an example that's > more likely to happen then your backup coming out of the loop, and falling > into the scooter. What did you do? You attacked me, so i asked you to show > stats and you attack me again, I invite you here to dive my environment and > you attack me again, so I ask for stats again, and you say all I am doing is > attacking you wkpp and dir. and you attack me again, I respond by saying i > wasn't trying to insult you, i was just questioning something, so you send a > private email threatening me. Probably not a smart thing, you know I am a > PSD, and most people know most psd are either cops or fire fighters. I'm not > gonna tell you who you just threatened, I'll let you wonder if you just broke > the law by threatening a civilian, or by threatening a cop. By the way, your > still welcome to come dive the sewage system for that shiny new quarter. > > Thank You > Jason Miller > > Find out when and where > LGS, DRI, and other > PSD orgs are training! > <A HREF="http://www.egroups.com/group/PSD-events">eGroups : PSD-events</A> > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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