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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: <IHOPPOET@ao*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: backup reg - why, was and still is logic
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:52:09 -0400
Go fuck yourself, asshole. I am done with you . You
have no clue, you make no sense, you can't read and
you can't see the whole picture because you are not
only an idiot, you have no experience with any of this
and I do. End of conversation . Continue it in person
or not at all.

Talk up the argument with JJ - he is used to dive
students who think they know it all and he told you
the same thing I did , so that already makes you a
liar and an idiot.


-----Original Message-----
From: IHOPPOET@ao*.co* <IHOPPOET@ao*.co*>
To: trey@ne*.co* <trey@ne*.co*>
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: backup reg - why, was and still is logic


>In a message dated 8/16/00 11:01:17 AM Central
Daylight Time, trey@ne*.co*
>writes:
>
><< Go fuck yourself. Take it up with me in person,
> asshole.
>  >>
>Trey, you accused me of having the sole intention of
insulting you and your
>little cave project, when in reality, I have only
insulted you, in response
>to your personal attacks on me, and you take every
chance you can get to
>insult me, I am posting what you said to me in
private, because you didn't
>have the balls to say it in public.
>
>Back to the topic at hand.
>
>Your buddy runs out of air, maybe he is an idiot, or
maybe something
>unforeseen happened he panics swims to you as fast as
he can, and as hard as
>he can yanks your primary out of your mouth.
>
>Yes, it might be unlikely that someone would let them
selves run out of air,
>but it has happened. It is not unlikely that a second
stage can break if a
>panicked diver yanks it away from you.
>
>now lets say it happens. I have been told DIR proper
thing to do is switch
>out regs. OK lets use logic here.
>
>Buddy runs out of air, so with no air he panics swims
to you as fast as he
>can, grabs your reg it breaks, is he gonna wait
calmly while you switch out
>the regs? We all know the answer to that one.
>so what are we left with? Buddy breathing.
>
>So now he runs out of air panics swims to you as fast
as he can holding his
>breath, yanks your primary, it breaks, what does he
do next. I would think he
>would grab for your back up, yanking it and you to
him. at this point you
>stay calm and jerk yourself and your reg away from
him, and luckily it didn't
>break, you take it over your head get a good breath
and hand it off. By now
>he is probably passed out, and most likely dead.
>
>Now you say you must permanently attach the bungee to
your back up, because
>if you don't you will have to find it. That's not
true. You can loop the
>bungee, so it will stay in current, or any other
circumstance, but when
>someone pulls on it, it will come out of the bungee.
Now you can buddy
>breath, he has air and is calmed down a bit, and you
can change out the regs.
>
>so lets recap the past 24 hours.
>
>I send an email agreeing with you on the compass, I
agreed with dir on bottle
>markings, I asked a question about the back up, and
gave an example that's
>more likely to happen then your backup coming out of
the loop, and falling
>into the scooter. What did you do? You attacked me,
so i asked you to show
>stats and you attack me again, I invite you here to
dive my environment and
>you attack me again, so I ask for stats again, and
you say all I am doing is
>attacking you wkpp and dir. and you attack me again,
I respond by saying i
>wasn't trying to insult you, i was just questioning
something, so you send a
>private email threatening me. Probably not a smart
thing, you know I am a
>PSD, and most people know most psd are either cops or
fire fighters. I'm not
>gonna tell you who you just threatened, I'll let you
wonder if you just broke
>the law by threatening a civilian, or by threatening
a cop. By the way, your
>still welcome to come dive the sewage system for that
shiny new quarter.
>
>Thank You
>Jason Miller
>
>Find out when and where
>LGS, DRI, and other
>PSD orgs are training!
><A
HREF="http://www.egroups.com/group/PSD-events">eGroups
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