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Exactly, I was about to start explaining JT the difference between stages
and deco bottles myself. Like his suggestion of having "stages handed down
to me" sounded a little weird to me...<g>
THOMAS
-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Lind [mailto:klind@al*.ne*]
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 12:32 PM
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: re vb tech report
JT:
You are citing a cave diving site and I'm quite certain this discussion is
about carrying stages of BOTTOM GAS to extend penetration, not deco. AL80s
are always the correct bottle for bottom gas stages whether in caves or in
ocean. Don't confuse deco bottles with stages. Obviously if you only have
20 minutes of deco then an AL80 is unnecessary and I'm sure George would be
the first to agree.
And, by the way, AL80 stages of bottom gas work perfectly on wreck dives.
On my small boat I don't have space to carry a complete helium fill station
for overnight trips to the more remote wrecks that we dive. And I don't own
3 sets of doubles. So we have taken to following George's advice of diving
trimix stages (AL80s) and preserving the bottom gas in the doubles until the
last dive of the trip. Works great and ends up being a FAR FAR more
efficient use of helium which is important when it costs $250 per cylinder
like it does up here in SE Alaska. The amount of trimix that I end up
having to dump is down to almost nothing.
Kent Lind
Juneau, Alaska
-----Original Message-----
From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 12:13 PM
To: Phi Le
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: re vb tech report
Below in BOLD is the section about stages written by George Irvine and
is still on the WKPP org. web site in the equipment section. Since most NE
wreckers have turned their back on techdiver due to GI tactics, the only
source of information they can get without being pounded "WKPP wanna bees"
is this site or others who are doing nothing more than sniffing GI butt with
this same copied info.
Stages should be aluminum 80's.
Right off the bat they can see that GI is off his rocker, he has already
told everyone not to change any of his system, they already know that it is
much easier to carry a 45 steel stage than an eighty on a wreck dive. Alum
40's are better for wreck dives, easier to manage, but he does not say that
in this on the site
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Kent Lind=20
[mailto:klind@al*.ne*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 15, 2000 =
12:32=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B>
RE: re vb =
tech=20
report<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D121491916-15082000>JT:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D121491916-15082000>You are=20
citing a cave diving site and I'm quite certain this discussion =
is about=20
carrying stages of BOTTOM GAS to extend penetration, not deco. =
AL80s are=20
always the correct bottle for bottom gas stages whether in caves or in =
ocean. Don't confuse deco bottles with stages. Obviously =
if you=20
only have 20 minutes of deco then an AL80 is unnecessary and I'm sure =
George=20
would be the first to agree.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=3D121491916-15082000></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D121491916-15082000>And, by=20
the way, AL80 stages of bottom gas work perfectly on wreck =
dives. On my=20
small boat I don't have space to carry a complete helium fill station =
for=20
overnight trips to the more remote wrecks that we dive. And I =
don't own=20
3 sets of doubles. So we have taken to following George's advice =
of=20
diving trimix stages (AL80s) and preserving the bottom gas in the =
doubles=20
until the last dive of the trip. Works great and ends up being a =
FAR FAR=20
more efficient use of helium which is important when it costs $250 per =
cylinder like it does up here in SE Alaska. The amount of trimix =
that I=20
end up having to dump is down to almost nothing.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D121491916-15082000></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D121491916-15082000>Kent=20
Lind</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D121491916-15082000>Juneau,=20
Alaska</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Capt JT=20
[mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 14, =
2000 12:13=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Phi Le<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: re vb tech=20
report<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>Below in BOLD is the section about
stages =
written=20
by George Irvine and is still on the WKPP org. web site in the =
equipment=20
section. Since most NE wreckers have turned their back on techdiver =
due to=20
GI tactics, the only source of information they can get without =
being=20
pounded "WKPP wanna bees" is this site or others who are doing =
nothing more=20
than sniffing GI butt with this same copied info.<BR><FONT=20
face=3D"Arial Black, Helvetica"> <BR>Stages should be aluminum=20
80's.<BR></FONT>Right off the bat they can see that GI is off his =
rocker, he=20
has already told everyone not to change any of his system, they =
already know=20
that it is much easier to carry a 45 steel stage than an eighty on a =
wreck=20
dive. Alum 40's are better for wreck dives, easier to manage, but he =
does=20
not say that in this on the site<FONT=20
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