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From: "Todd Baldi" <todd_baldi@ho*.co*>
To: trey@ne*.co*, scottk@hc*.co*, mhkane@pr*.ne*
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com, cavers@ca*.co*
Subject: Re: Series of recent deaths
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 08:48:12 CDT
George,

I read a lot on the list and the WKPP website regarding gear configuration 
but I rarely see any mention of the most important piece of equipment, your 
body.

I am familiar with your workout regimine through private emails and some 
discussion on the list. Could you please give a rundown on what the other 
WKPP divers do to maintain their shape.  Is there some set workout rountine 
that you require for WKPP divers? Plus what training, other than what is 
listed on your forms do you require your divers to go through?

Thanks,
Todd

>From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
>To: "Scott" <scottk@hc*.co*>, "MHK" <mhkane@pr*.ne*>
>CC: "List - Technical Diver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, <cavers@ca*.co*>
>Subject: Re: Series of recent deaths
>Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:22:22 -0400
>
>go to http://www.wkpp.org and then "Equipment" and
>then the DIR gear config article - it is all there.
>
>The direct url is
>http://www.wkpp.org/articles/Gear/newgeorge.html
>
>Try to understand it in its entirety.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Scott <scottk@hc*.co*>
>To: George Irvine <trey@ne*.co*>; MHK
><mhkane@pr*.ne*>
>Date: Thursday, August 10, 2000 3:01 PM
>Subject: Fw: Series of recent deaths
>
>
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Scott" <scottk@hc*.re*.co*>
> >Newsgroups: rec.scuba
> >Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 12:00 PM
> >Subject: Re: Series of recent deaths
> >
> >
> >> Its going to get worse before it gets better.
> >>
> >> The more people die, the louder We bitch, and the
>harder they argue and
> >look
> >> elsewhere for a place to put the blame. Disclaimers
>keep you out of court,
> >> but
> >> court isn't the only authority people are going to
>have to answer to.
> >>
> >> I am almost pissed off at Maffatone. What a waste.
>Everyone said shit like
> >> "Oh, he died doing what he loved." Fuck that
>bullshit. He died
> >> traumatically, scared and alone. There was nothing
>glamorous about his
> >> death. He drowned. Its was simply a fucking waste
>of a good man, and a
> >> veteran. He was not only a feather in the cap of
>his friends, he was a
> >> feather in the cap of our country. As long as
>people accept a *needless*
> >> death like this, and justify it because he was
>"doing what he loved", more
> >> are doomed to follow. Its all in the mindset,
>people. I didn't know the
> >man,
> >> and imagine it would be quite a privilege to have
>made his acquaintance.
> >> Those of you who did know him, will miss him. Those
>of us who didn't know
> >> him are glad we don't have the pain you do.
> >>
> >> And for what? I cant really find any good lesson
>from this mans death.
> >>
> >> People who get pissed about the list "Reasons for
>you strokes to shut the
> >> fuck up and listen", will have to get used to the
>idea of the existence of
> >> the list, because it is growing exponentially. Its
>continued growth is fed
> >> by greed, ego, stupid pride, and politeness.
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >> "MHK" <mhkane@PR*.NE*> wrote in message
> >>
>news:8mup78$26n4$1@ne*.ne*.pr*.co*...
> >> >
> >> > Given that there have been a series of recent
>tragedies, I hope everyone
> >> > will take an extra minute or so prior to there
>next dive and take a look
> >> at
> >> > there diving..  Hopefully you'll ask yourself, is
>there anything I can
> >do
> >> to
> >> > make this dive safer.
> >> >
> >> > It seems, based upon the accounts that I have
>reviewed, that most of
> >these
> >> > deaths were some experienced divers.  Complacency
>kills, and I know we
> >> like
> >> > to have a bunch of fun on this NG and beat each
>other up now and again.
> >> But
> >> > no matter what side of the DIR coin you side on,
>please take a fresh
> >look
> >> at
> >> > your diving and try to remain safe..
> >> >
> >> > The only remaining contribution these diver's can
>leave us with is that
> >we
> >> > can look at there mistakes and learn from them.
>Death is an unfortunate
> >> > byproduct of our sport and should be looked at as
>a learning tool.  What
> >> can
> >> > be learned, and how can we avoid it from
>happening again..
> >> >
> >> > My condoleseces to all the families that have
>suffered, may they rest in
> >> > peace..
> >> >
> >> > Stay safe....
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
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