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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01BFFE18.BFF5F220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jerred Cook=20 To: H2Ocaver ; TechDiver Message=20 Sent: 03 August, 2000 21:15 Subject: Re: Diving the San Diego=20 >Please excuse my ignorance... =20 If you can handle mine, I can handle yours. >Is it really bad for someone like Tony Maffatone to work with new ideas = and try them out? =20 The only "new" idea was to put all the tanks on his back horizontally. =20 >Granted, he may have made a terrible mistake but isn't that how big = discoveries are made? =20 All he did was re-prove that gas blocking valves are a shitty idea. = There was nothing new to be discovered in this rig. =20 >I kinda thought that was part of the adventure to all of this. =20 That rig was the equivalent of a doctor coming up with a new needle for = bloodletting. =20 Tony was trying to polish a turd and the turd luster limit was reached = years ago. =20 >Did the first rebreather work perfectly the first time? =20 Of course not. The next rebreather took lessons from the first. A = bigger, more complex version of the same rig was not the answer then and = it isn't now. =20 >I am not condoning stupidity and since I don't know exactly what Tony = was doing it may very well have been stupid. =20 Even with my very limited experience I could see big problems. =20 Getting a diver to _reliably_ alternate between independent tanks with = the same mix is hard enough. =20 How much could be expected from that gagger of a manifold he had to = operate? >I am just suggesting that maybe he has some good ideas and if this is = what he enjoyed doing then good for him. =20 Perhaps, but the shitty ideas killed the good ones along with him. =20 >I am sorry for him but at least he got to die doing something he very = much enjoyed. How many of us get to say that? I don't know. Perhaps Tony enjoyed tinkering more than diving. I just = wish he had checked on the failures of similar setups first. Every time I see one of these events my appreciation of a divemaster and = boat captain who aren't afraid to scream at me increases. Don Burke From: H2Ocaver=20 To: TechDiver Message=20 Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 4:11 PM Subject: RE: Diving the San Diego=20 > > From: <billy@bd*.co*.au*> > > Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 20:37:41 +1000 > > To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > Subject: Re: ABC on Diving the San Diego - STROKE ALERT > > > > > >> on 7/31/00 2:24 AM, speez3 (Techdiver) at speez3@ea*.ne* = wrote: > >> > >>> As for Tony Maffatone, he takes his > >>> ideas, puts them on paper and makes them work. Everything he = builds=20 > is from > >>> his own design. This whole thread really shows ZERO intelligence = from=20 > this > >>> list. A proper apology is definitely in order. > > > > > > Seems Maffatone is determined to take an outdated > > and terminally stupid idea and grind it around and > > around some-more. > > > > The old Kevorkian rig rears its ugly head again. > > > > rgds billyw ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01BFFE18.BFF5F220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY>----- Original Message -----=20 <DIV></DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:jjcook@av*.ne*" title=3Djjcook@av*.ne*>Jerred = Cook</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = href=3D"mailto:ez@ez*.co*"=20 title=3Dez@ez*.co*>H2Ocaver</A> ; <A = href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"=20 title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com>TechDiver Message</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 03 August, 2000 21:15</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Diving the San Diego = </DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>Please excuse my = ignorance...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you can handle mine, I can handle=20 yours.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>Is it really bad for someone like = Tony=20 Maffatone to work with new ideas and try them out?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The only "new" idea was to put all the = tanks on his=20 back horizontally.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>Granted, he may have made a = terrible mistake=20 but isn't that how big discoveries are made?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All he did was re-prove that gas = blocking valves=20 are a shitty idea. There was nothing new to be discovered in this=20 rig.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>I kinda thought that was part of = the adventure=20 to all of this.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That rig was the equivalent of a doctor = coming up=20 with a new needle for bloodletting.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tony was trying to polish a turd and = the turd=20 luster limit was reached years ago.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>Did the first rebreather work = perfectly the=20 first time?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Of course not. The next = rebreather took=20 lessons from the first. A bigger, more complex version of the same = rig was=20 not the answer then and it isn't now.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>I am not condoning stupidity and = since I don't=20 know exactly what Tony was doing it may very well have been = stupid.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Even with my very limited experience I = could see=20 big problems.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Getting a diver to _reliably_ alternate = between=20 independent tanks with the same mix is hard enough.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How much could be expected from that = gagger of a=20 manifold he had to operate?</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>I am just suggesting that maybe he = has some=20 good ideas and if this is what he enjoyed doing then good for = him.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Perhaps, but the shitty ideas killed = the good ones=20 along with him.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>I am sorry for him but at least he = got to die=20 doing something he very much enjoyed. How many of us get to say=20 that?</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't know. Perhaps Tony = enjoyed tinkering=20 more than diving. I just wish he had checked on the failures of = similar=20 setups first.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Every time I see one of these events my = appreciation of a divemaster and boat captain who aren't afraid to = scream at me=20 increases.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Don Burke</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:ez@ez*.co*" title=3Dez@ez*.co*>H2Ocaver</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"=20 title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com>TechDiver Message</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 03, 2000 = 4:11=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Diving the San Diego = </DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>> > From: <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:billy@bd*.co*.au*">billy@bdi.com.au</A>><BR>> > = Date: Wed,=20 02 Aug 2000 20:37:41 +1000<BR>> > To: <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>><BR>= > >=20 Subject: Re: ABC on Diving the San Diego - STROKE ALERT<BR>> = ><BR>>=20 ><BR>> >> on 7/31/00 2:24 AM, speez3 (Techdiver) at <A=20 href=3D"mailto:speez3@ea*.ne*">speez3@earthlink.net</A> = wrote:<BR>>=20 >><BR>> >>> As for Tony Maffatone, he takes = his<BR>>=20 >>> ideas, puts them on paper and makes them work. Everything = he builds=20 <BR>> is from<BR>> >>> his own design. This whole thread = really=20 shows ZERO intelligence from <BR>> this<BR>> >>> list. A = proper=20 apology is definitely in order.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > = Seems=20 Maffatone is determined to take an outdated<BR>> > and terminally = stupid=20 idea and grind it around and<BR>> > around some-more.<BR>> = ><BR>>=20 > The old Kevorkian rig rears its ugly head again.<BR>> = ><BR>> >=20 rgds billyw<BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01BFFE18.BFF5F220-- ____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___________________________________________________________ -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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